#11 Windsurf Acquired, Kimi K2, Kiro, Canva MCP, ChatGPT Agents, AI Girlfriend

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I think we I think we're good to go on YouTube right now. Is it like Google steals 2.5 2.4 billion Windsurf dream? Yeah. From Open AI's grasp. What does that mean? From Open AI's grasp. Um, is it like stealing from Open AI? It's more like Open AI didn't want to continue with the deal. What? What are you saying? Um, the winderf. Uh, yeah. the um Google didn't Google stole it, but because also OpenAI didn't want to continue with Windsurf, right? We don't know exactly why they didn't continue. No. Well, we'll get into all that, won't we? What are you asking of me? What are you asking of me? Uh the the the title is kind of like it's not how I talk.

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I'm not. I'm just Okay. Well, lucky you, dear audience, who lucky you has has to put up with uh me talking all the time. I'm trying to fight the Tik Tok brain, you know, this short um focus and actually no focus at all. Are you ready? Because I think it's time. We're four minutes over. Uh, sure. Um, I'll just read it. I'll just read it. Okay. Right. I'm going to try and do it from scratch again because, you know, no pain, no gain. Yeah. Gain. Uh, actually I need the articles. That's something I can't remember. But uh, here we go. Welcome to Oh, sake. Welcome to Command AI, where we press command F on the internet AI news and still somehow can't find our sanity.

My name is Samuel Gregory and I am Kavarza, and we are here to decode the weekly chaos in AI, web design, and development. This week, we got Google stealing 2.4 4 billion Windsurf dream from OpenAI's grasp. This is where Windsurf founders ditch Open AI for Google's billions. We are going to talk about this, but also we have YouTube declaring war on AI slop and China dropped the ultimate AI bomb. Clawed AI invades Canva. The design world has been shaken. Uh, Kira coding revolution begins and chatbt agents storm the internet. Well, this week Sam Altman gave us AI agents that can create powerpoints for us and Elon Musk gave us an anime girlfriend. Looking forward to that.

I could deal with one of those. But we'll get into all that on this week's episode. Cool. Smooth as butter. Yeah, that that was that was too good, you know, for especially, you know, that we didn't really practice. Well, you you are a pro. You are a pro. You've been doing this for I don't know, a decade or two. I don't know anymore. I don't know anymore. Let's uh let's jump into Wow, this was a bit of a a roller coaster. uh the whole Wind Surf Open AAI acquisition that fell through and then kind of like a rising phoenix came out on top by being purchased by none other than who purchased them? Someone um Devon Devon came in and purchased them which is crazy.

So, to kind of backtrack on it all, um, beginning of the week, the $3 billion deal with, um, Open Ally fell through. That was kind of like a shocker. Um, well, it it was and wasn't a shocker because it's $3 billion. Do you know what I mean? That's crazy. Um, for what? For a VS Code fork. for a VS Code fork, you know. Um, and to be honest, like I don't know, we'll get into the thoughts at the end. Let's just kind of go through the article and uh and chat about it. And then the key leadership including CEO Varon Moham and co-founder Douglas Chen joining Google DeepMind to focus on coding efforts. So, not it was that's a disaster and I don't I actually don't know which order this kind of fell through and and do you know what I mean?

Like did OpenAI fall through and then they were going or did they plan to go and like how quickly did did Open AAI cancel because they were being they were going to they you know they um these two were going to they found out they were going to Google? Do you know what I mean? which one I I don't I don't understand why why did open AAI want to buy a a VS Code fork in the first place for $3 billion especially that they don't have you know they didn't have the users it wasn't like buying them because of the users or the users data and it's not because of the software because I mean it's a VS Code fork but now we could see maybe we could say that it is it was because of the people maybe because apparently you know the the the founders are worth billions that's why Google started to you know uh hire them and acquire them and what sucks is that just the founders or just a few top people got acquired and the rest of the team was kind of like left left behind I can't imagine I can't imagine there's a lot of positivity in in the in the company right now.

Do you know what I mean? But we'll get into that because I think there is there is knock-on effects that we'll get into all the way through this week's episode. So, yeah, I mean like it fell through. That's what it was. They're no longer they've no longer got their their senior leaders uh on board and it kind of all seemed like it was a disaster. And then Devon, I don't know if you remember Devon. Um, I actually did a I mean, is it Devon.com? I don't know. Is it Devonai? Um, I actually did a video on Devon because they reached out to sponsor a video. Great people to work with actually. And um, you know, they come in, swooped in, purchased them.

We don't know the details of how much they bought. Um, but they did buy the intellectual property rights, the products, the brand rights, and all of the employees of Windsurf. Um, except the ones that left, right? Obviously, except the ones that left, which is, yeah, to to sort of, which is of note, but they bought them. I, you know, I think Devon are on a bit of a trying to claw back a bit of um momentum that they gained up a couple of years ago. I remember that this Devon were originally the the first kind of AI co maybe they weren't the first but they were the one that kind of got loads of attention.

I think they got a lot of eyeballs on AI being a legitimate coding partner. And I don't I can't really remember. I wasn't too involved in in AI development way back then, but I don't think it was particularly, you know, stand out, but first movers normally aren't. So, nothing really to sort of worry about. Um, and I don't I haven't got this the the fine details on this specifically, but Claude uh once Claude or Anthropic found out that they were being purchased by OpenAI, they retracted uh the access to Claude through Windsurf. But since all of it has fallen through and Devon's now purchased, they actually literally I don't know if you watched the video.

It was quite quite awkward, but two nerds, what can you expect? They were like, and and now we're friends with Anthropic. And so, yeah, Claude is now being re reinstated in in Windsurf, but very uh very petty, but then you're you're giving away intellectual property at the end of the day. And I don't know. So, yeah, a bit of a bit of a roller coaster adventure for um for these for these two companies. Silicon Valley Drama. Yeah. And I think it's it's been obvious since we f since since we first reported I think wave nine um a lot of the drops that win sorry Windsurf release things in waves and I think we're on wave 11 or something right now.

So, Windsurf announced wave nine and I think they reserved so many of their features or their their you know whatever for enterprise and team accounts and immediately I was like they it feels like they're trying and and and Jet Brains plugin and I was like I think I remember saying something along the lines of it feels like they're going to they're trying to go for the enterprise coding environment Like it it's no surprise that enterprise does pay a lot for this sort of stuff for practically nothing. You know, you do no there's not much difference between some of this software. But I think enterprise just think because they're chucking money at something. They're getting a better product or it's more secure or something.

I don't know. But that's not my world. I don't know. But yeah, they finally got what they wanted. I don't know how much for. No one knows how much for just yet. But they finally got what they wanted, I think. So, yeah, we'll see. Yeah. Uh, I'm happy that the, you know, the rest of the team is not screwed over. You're of course you're happy for the people. Yes. That's very on brand for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's No, that is true. like they and I they they really they called out like the commitment to the people like they obviously wanting to make sure that people feel heard, people feel welcome, people feel like there's not going to be a lot of crazy kind of shakeups there because of course with those two uh senior leaders going I can imagine a lot of the staff being you know a bit anxious and we'll see in the upcoming weeks whether we see a massive exodus of wind surf employees but um yeah we'll see then we get into the world of AI slop.

Have you seen this? Not so much you know. No this is this is kind of new for me. So uh I I would love to know more about it. It's it's less um you know relevant to you and I because we actually make uh authent authentic content but they recently updated their policy here. This was updated in July. Maybe I can make that bigger for you. Um they sort of specifically called out original and authentic content. All right. So, so just just to backtrack a little bit, we are talking about YouTube. So, so people understand uh the context, we are talking about YouTube um trying to get to have less AI generated videos or like probably demonetize them and not prioritize them.

That is what is probably is about, right? Exactly. Yeah. Sorry, I rush I rushed ahead there. I got too excited. We have the context, but I want to Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, you've jumped ahead just a little bit there about the demonetization because that is essentially what uh we think this is all we've got. What you see here is all we've got and it it alludes to this idea that they're going to start demonetizing AI stuff because they've specifically called out original and they've called out authentic. And these aren't new uh aspects to their policy. I think they're just they're just bringing YouTube has always required creators to upload original and authentic content. So I think there's going to be a lot of shakeup and a lot of these AI creators are probably a bit like a man you know because go on AI creators that that I know.

Yeah. So h okay so I'm asking you and every anybody who's like watching online have you uh have you seen any like AI generated content in your feed where you not not just see the thumbnail and notice but actually not notice and click it and then watch maybe 30 seconds or a minute through and notice that this is not humanmade. This is some AI voice, some AI text. everything is like like super generate then maybe somebody didn't even look it over and just got automatically published. Have you seen any of those? Well, I've seen it but to answer your question, have I, you know, been like, oh, this is AI generated? Yes and no. So the the um I've mentioned this before, but I watch a lot of like psychology content or psychological kind of, you know, assessment content and a lot of that is AI generated, right?

The visuals and and the text and all that jazz. I watch I well I don't even watch it actually. I had no idea the visuals were AI generated, but I do listen to it and I know it's AI generated and I've have commented on one of them and called out like I know this is AI generated but you've missed a big part like they the editing is kind of messed up. So, but all that to answer your question just briefly, yes, I have I have watched that stuff and yeah, I don't mind some of it. I I do mind it. I it I cannot stand it when I I've I've seen this a few times where I click and I notice after like 30 minute 30 seconds or like a minute of watching it.

I notice because it doesn't feel authentic because you feel like the it's there is no care in it. It's just like some it feels a bit random. Um, I it's hard to describe it, but the moment I notice, I give it a dislike and I make sure to Yeah. Uh, yeah. I'm like I'm I I try to like even, you know, click the I don't want to see this or something like this. Uh, I I I cannot stand it. I understand though that if we take AI for being average which it it is it's also like below average in many things despite you know company saying something else but when it comes to creating something original it's below average and I understand even being below average is kind of sometimes better than some random YouTube videos made by an original human.

So very true. It it might have some you know truth in it. It might the information in it might be um you know not false but I still go to YouTube to watch human generated content. I it it might be me. I'm I might be you know anti- AI in this sense but I just cannot stand it. I watch it and I it makes me feel cringe. I don't know if you know the KZK channel. It's one of the biggest channels on YouTube. They make science videos and there is a narrator the the guy with like an amazing voice and I can imagine like there might be an AI version of that already. It might be, you know, not a human narrator any uh anymore and be AI.

don't know even well I'm pretty sure it's still human because it has like the punctuation and the the way that you know they deliver AI is still way too monotone for that or like you know if they if you make AI sound excited it is just overly excited all the time it's it's not this you know human type of uh way so for I can see my point being I can see a future where AI I content or like partially AI content can be integrated but I cannot stand this like completely autogenerated uh type of content. My point being, if I want to do a research and learn something from an AI um about something, I'll just open my chat app, ask questions, and then I have a back and forth.

Mh. Versus a video generated by AI is just, you know, a monotone linear thing that I I don't I don't want that. H I mean technicalities aside, there's going to be AI generated audio that is monotone. It's getting better. We reported on um uh whatever it is that number three version of that a the one of the leaders. What was it called? Do you remember what it was called? Oh, maybe actually you weren't here for that um that episode. Uh what's the what's the leading AI texttospech platform? 11 Labs. 11 Labs. That's exactly it. Yeah. So they released a version which is which is sounding pretty good. Technicalities aside, there's going to be good, there's going to be bad stuff.

Like I think we're I think we're I think it's more of a like a where mor it's a moral question of where we stand on gen generally AI generated content and like just to backtrack a little bit. So I'm assuming reading between the lines you you're jumping from another platform you're seeing AI generated content on another platform. No, I I see when I see it on YouTube, I'm specific. Okay, fine. I I don't I I I give it a dislike if I notice. Um it is a anonymous like the most passive thing. Not anonymous. Like I like with my main account and like YouTube premium disc. I don't know. I have a YouTube premium. Does it like does my dislike count more?

No. No. No. Just just for those just for those watching maybe who aren't following or listening who aren't following about this. So actually maybe this is just a me thing but when you dislike a video it's the most passive unhelpful thing you can do to some in my opinion to do something because you're saying you don't like something but you're not you're not saying why. So there's no way for that person to even improve. All you're doing is just disheartening that person. like you I could if a video does doesn't do very well or there's dislikes or whatever, I can only fathom out of the millions of you know interpretations I can have on a video.

I I can only fathom what could be the thing that you're disliking. Is it the title? Is it the pace? Is it when it's just so unhelpful? And this is why the like dislike like removing what is it like removing the dislike number was a big thing because I don't know specifically I wasn't deep in the I I still miss that. I I I think that should still I I completely a agree with your stance. So if you are watching this video, any video and you don't like it and if it's not AI generated, if it's AI generated, it's like no human behind it. Uh that's why I'm giving a dislike. But if it's a human and you don't like the video, give it don't give a dislike.

Give a comment and say like what you don't like. Especially if you care about that type of content because you clicked on it. You probably care and that person made a video. They put a lot of effort in it. They care. So write a comment and ask them to do to do better to do whatever you want. And I like I will do it. Like if if you comment on my video and want something I will consider it like for sure it will like stay with me. I I care. M um I was thinking about this. We're getting slightly off topic here. We get on that's why I include Well, we talking about YouTube YouTubers talking about YouTube.

Yeah. Yeah. But like when when did it happen that and we talk about authentic and original content? When did it happen that the moment you put something on YouTube that it has to be of a certain caliber other, you know, I I read a comment from someone last week of like you could have it was it was a Matthew Burman video, so it was an AI video and he was just reporting on Grock 4. He was just reporting on Grock 4 as we did. And I think people are misinterpreting when you're just reporting on something that it's perfectly okay to report on something and not have any perspective or have any have used it and someone just says you could at least told us in the title that you didn't use it.

I don't like my time being wasted. And I'm like, when did it become like this this demanding, you know, um what do they call it when you're when you're entitlement that you you what you're watching on YouTube is anything more than a frigin dude. I was going to I wanted to try and show some sort of green screen thing. It's just me like I'm on a green screen, you know? I'm just I'm just a dude making videos about things that I love. Yet people have this demand that we need to we need to be this expert team of people. I make I make such little money on YouTube. You can't I I spend I've spent so much money on this and I make pence on videos that I spend I agree.

Yeah. Hours making. It's such a weird space. you know, we expect so much, but trying to get back on track. Um, the AI stuff like like for me question. Yeah. The the the stuff that I watched and listen to because actually I do I do once because V3 has a look about it. V3 has a look. Everyone is so perfectly lit. There's no You might know what this is. when when light from another person that's nearby you you are reflective and uh what is it called radiance or um ray tracing is the technical term we have ray tracing ray tracing it is when uh the the light uh hits a surface and then it reflects back and it might even create reflections or like hits somewhere else.

Yeah. Yeah. So everyone is so perfectly lit that they're not they're not engaged with each other. There might be a bit of shadow but that's about it anyway. point is V3 has a look um and I'll skip through I'll skip past it because again I'm looking at it from a deeper level if it's well written I criticize the uh the the uh vlogs the the Yeti vlogs that some of them landed really well but if the video was rubbish you're left with just the writing if the writing if the if the comic timing if the you know whatever if it's well put together I will watch it right but so many people are actually not that good and it reveals reve that they're bad writers and that reveals that they're just being lazy.

But there are people who do put a lot of attention into into this sort of stuff. Um, and the stuff that I do watch again is from a mental perspective. I don't even watch it. I didn't even know that there was AI. I mean, of course there is, but I didn't even know there was AI. But then I think this is starting to and and I know a lot of them because they release like four times a day. So, there's a lot going on um from these channels, even though I do watch it. But all that to be said, like I'm not necessarily put off from AI content if it's well done. I'm well aware that people just switch off the moment they see AI or the moment they hear or think it's AI.

I think people are, you know, it's a bit cringe when people claim something's AI and it's like or something's not AI and it's like, yeah, it's clearly AI, but you just don't know it. Anyway, um yeah, I'm I'm I'm okay if it's done well and that you can put a lot of care and attention into AI generated content or have AI as you mentioned like AI flourishes or things like that. Like I would say my content is somewhat AI generated even if it is coming up with titles or if it's coming up with a I I don't know whether it's a thumbnail or something like that. You know, AI is there to help. It's just I think it's when it becomes a farm that's maybe that's the issue when I think like I don't have a problem with a parts of a video being AI generated like the the videos for from fire ship I feel like they they are not as good as they used to be and I feel like they there might be some videogenerated elements to it maybe the text maybe the humor I feel like it's not as good as it used to be Even though it it's still pretty good and I watch them.

My problem is when it's as you said it's a farm. It's not even low effort. It's no effort. It's just some n kind of like routine running through. Exly. a routine looking at I don't know maybe something over Twitter what is you know going on in the world and then all right let's take that do a bit of research generate a video posted that is like zero effort yes there is effort in the setup but there is zero absolutely zero effort in making the video itself so I don't want to watch that because my point being is if I want to be informed about something on that topic from an an AI perspective. I'll just ask an AI and then have my answer and back and forth and not watch a video.

When I want to watch a video, I want to watch something curated and mostly from people who are domain experts like one hour ago. I was watching stuff on shaders. I understand way too little about it. But I'm watching domain experts and not, you know, some AI stuff for things like this. I want to, you know, watch people who have curated, you know, that knowledge. Even if it's not perfect, it's still, you know, um I feel like it is better. Yeah. For me to learn it. Anyway, yeah. Um quite a long topic. I'm standing here with YouTube. I agree with YouTube. just banning these accounts. Oh, well, I'm kidding. You know, demonetizing them. Demonetizing. I think that's Well, just to round up, like there's not been any specific word on demonetization.

I don't think any action has been taken, but I think some emphasis has been brought to that policy um that they've, you know, drawing attention to their original kind of thing that they wanted YouTube to be. And I guess only time will tell what what will happen to some of these some of these content farms. Let's jump to a break and then we'll be back with Here's where we should do like a little quiz, shouldn't it? We should do a quiz here. Yeah. Uh our first ad break. So let's jump to our break and then we'll be back in a second. Support for this episode comes from Flowbase. If you are building in Web Flow, Framer, or Figma, Flowbase can help you build much faster.

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All right, that's it. Let's continue with the show. Kimmy K2. Lovely name. Um, have you heard about this? Is this uh on your radar at all? Yeah, a little bit. So, this is um what is it called? Like openw weight model. It it's not an open source. It is open weight. Uh, right. Well, I mean they're one in the same thing. They're one in the same thing. So, like So, what does it mean when is an a model is open weight? Yeah, let's get into that. Let's let's talk about what the uh what's going on here. So it is yeah an open source model with a trillion total parameters. That means like you know with we're at the moment we're talking about billions like 500 billion like whatever this is a trillion parameters um and achieve state-of-the-art performance uh frontier knowledge in math coding among other non-thinking models.

Now this is quite important because it's non-thinking uh to have this kind of performance and this kind of um intelligence. So there are two models. It's Kimmy K2 base and Kimmy K2 instruct. Obviously this is the foundation model in which this instruct has been been trained on and it is performing quite well compared to many of the other ones. I mean we're just behind the industry leader which is uh Claude here. Um Claude being can you see that? Okay. Shall I make it bigger? 72 whereas Kim K2 is 65 uh on the Sweet Bench Multilingual 51 versus 47. Live codebench v6 is actually beating anthropic here. Um actually Deep Seek's doing pretty well there. So it's really it's doing some it's really really I mean yeah it's incredible.

And this is from this is a Chinese model. So it's uh something to take note of and it's a very cheap model. So China are really pushing the pushing the envelope when it comes to creating really really good um models. So can you download this model and run it locally? Yes, in theory you can. But how many gigabytes is that? And how many because one trillion is like crazy. Yeah, that's pretty big. That that's got to be I think that serve K2 on your own. Um, communicot platform. I want to see something. What do we just deployment? Here we go. Is this Could we have something here? If we were using GIA, we could ask it directly.

How many gigabytes is this? Um, go on then, mate. Go on then. How many gigabytes is gear open source? Uh, maybe I'll do it. Uh, how are you doing? How big was the deep No, I'm I'm not. But how big was the Deep Seek? Uh, I think it was around 500 network actually. I don't know. We're on hugging face right now. So, I'm not too famili Oh, it's got 100,000 uh download. So, this is the instruct model. So, this is not the foundation model. Uh, so is the instruct model bigger? Parameters update six days. I don't know. I don't know my way around. Um, hugging face. I don't know how to see. What about Lama?

Is it on Lama? Um, this usually has a size because you can uh Kimmy Kimmy Kimmy Kiwi. No, they don't even have it. They didn't even have it yet. Um, but yeah, point taken. I think it's I think it's pretty faking big. Um, and I think this is just going to shake up the industry again. I used it for a bit and it was really slow and I was like, well, why, you know, I the thing is about Deep Seek. Deepseek came out and whilst it wasn't necessarily the best, they've got a lot better now, by the way. uh whilst it wasn't necessarily the best, it just it was just a point in time where it was like China just came out with this super cheap, very capable model um against all of these closed source options.

So, and I think that that changed the industry. Wasn't necessarily a good model. That's not what the point is. I think this is the same again. This is the same a similar kind of um shift in the in the what do you call it the industry once again just to have another model that's non-thinking doing really really and scoring really really well and it's pretty good for coding and doing all that kind of stuff. So, so yeah, have you got the the question that this question existed kind of like from the start of this AI hype that uh if open-source AI is going to make all these AI companies obsolete. Uh and this question comes up every time when China especially releases an open-source model that is you know on par with these like expensive models that have hundreds of billions of dollars in investment and there is an open source one that you can run locally by the way I searched it's about just over one terabytes that means you need uh a computer with about one terabytes of VRAM I that's what I was going to say yeah it's the RAM.

It's the graphic card RAM that you need, which is like insane with your typical PC uh setups. You will not get that. You get like 20 gigabytes of VR RAM on a high-end computer. A terabyte we are talking. So, you need quite a few uh Apple Mac uh Pro thingies to get to that level. So, that is insane. That is an insane size. And it's crazy that now we can have these models as an open-source model that we could theoretically run on our own hardware or maybe a server that you rent that you know can do that. And then the question becomes you know what are these AI companies uh doing? What is the race this race that is going on for?

Because if open source is catching up constantly, how can these models win? How can Chad GPT win if you could just use this model for free or for the fraction of the cost? Yeah. Nice. What justifies Open AI's what trillions of, you know, planned um Yeah. Um you know, investment. It's insane. I I I don't know. This is the this is the comparison here. So we've got the open- source models here and then you got the propriety models here. So 53 on live codebench which beats out everyone and they you know um the winner here is that uh Opus 4 is is beating them on multiple uh multiple multiple um you can kind of see that you know that they they have they are doing very well.

They're doing very well against the closed course or source or proprietary software here, but you're right, they are catching up and it's um it's going to be an interesting I think you know being able to run it lo locally is not necessarily the selling point of open source. I mean it is totally and I'm actually getting more and more into open source stuff at the moment. It's just knowing um looking at the code and seeing what it's doing. looking at looking at its source prompt, it its system prompt and things like this that help you people can build their own AI from the code or or learning from the code that they're doing here. And to answer your question about the difference between open source versus open weights open weights is the actual uh training data that they have developed the co the the the learning the LLM from.

Whereas open source is kind of everything I guess around it the the actual again the system prompt you know and things like that. So um it's an interesting race and open source has always been you know they've always pushed the frontier a little bit of many many different things. Sometimes they come out on top. Linux Linux is open source and Linux basically runs everything. uh not many people know that but they are the they underpin pretty much every like so much stuff and that's open even your iPhone is u kind of like the base is Linux right yeah from what I understand like every operating software that we have there there is this meme okay you continue I'll search that meme well I've got nothing more to say on Kimmy K2 I've used it I've not used it they I saw someone um you since I used it was really really slow and then I watched some other person's video on it and they were getting 200 tokens a second and I think Opus was something like 40 or 60 tokens a second.

So really really good performance that they've they've made some form of update uh to it and I think that yeah it's probably pretty usable now. I'm still a cord code girl. Like I still I I've tried Gemini. Um I downloaded Klein. So this is the way to get uh Kimmy K2 is to to download something like Klein and and you access it through anthropics server or I don't know. Um but yeah, Claude has always been the the the tool of the the model of choice for me per personally. The only uh other things I was going to add before you share us your meme is that in these benchmarks that I shared, there's no Grock 4 there.

I don't, you know, unless you go through all of these and and look at the numbers that Grock 4 reported, there's no Grock 4 against some of these. So, it'll be interesting to see how it compares to Grock 4. Um, yeah, that's all I have to say. So, this is my this is the meme I'm talking about. Hang on because you're not there. I I wish you could just swap because I don't want to necessarily remove mine. I just want to Yeah, I can't uh I can remove mine, but I can I that this Oh, no. Hang on. You're not even showing the screen now. There we go. There it is. I don't know how I can add my own screen.

Anyway, so here's the meme. Um this is society and this is like everything, you know, that is fine and nice. What we don't see um unpaid open-source devs. Yeah. And this could not be, you know, th this is just so true and this is what most people don't understand. Like there are tons of developers who just build open uh source software and like opensource stuff that are not maybe visually appealing or don't have even a UI. They they are just like running all these servers and services and you know coming up with ideas like technical ideas to solve so many small niche problems and completely unappreciated. And most of these people do it either because they like you know solving these um very difficult challenges or they do it you know for also to to gain the trust and um what's it called it for their peers because of the other developers.

Kudos. Uh yeah. So um I think the um you know obviously if either one of us was a open source dev we probably go ham just like we did on the YouTube uh article earlier but I but I think this this image is made by someone who open source devs don't tend to want glory. They just do it because they love it. They do it because they, you know, they don't they don't care that, you know, they're not bitter that they uh they they're holding up prop propping up society in this sort of way. So, obviously, you're going to get people across the spectrum, but I don't think half of them really like Yeah. Yeah.

I've seen Yeah. I agree. I agree. I've seen so many devs, you know, being so incredibly happy because they shave off like half a second from a function, you know, running. So just because they they make something 10% faster, um they they get incredibly happy. And there are obviously like crack developers that come up with solutions that make something not half a second faster but maybe 20,000 times faster which like um helps to scale. This is again could be a reference to the show Silicon Valley. It's that they they come up with a way to store data um what's it called like comp compression. So they the the entire show starts around like compression and I'm not like spoiling anything and they come up with these ways to to to compress more data much better so that they can serve it on the internet and for obviously many other things but they don't think of the the solutions or like they don't think of the products that they can create with.

No, they go from the bottom up from okay, how can we make something like technically amazing, you know, this math, this math idea that we have that can, you know, work to compress some data, how can we actually, you know, build a algorithm with that and build software on top of it. And then comes the big companies who actually build something around that tech and for the consumers obviously. Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm sort of like in some ways I'm I'm a little bit like that. Like I I love building foundational stuff. Like I'm not I'm not an open source dev just to make that clear. I'm not you know I'm not contributing in that way.

I wouldn't know where to get started. But like I I love building stuff that other people can take and make it their own. Like that's just where my enjoyment lies, you know? Yeah. Um but yeah, it's a weird it's a weird it's a weird world. It is. I mean look at uh I know we are on a tangent here but to give like a few examples and I would love to you know um mention these people. So the you know we have WebGL which with which you can create graphics inside of a browser writing in WebGL is incredibly difficult but we have 3JS it's a library a JavaScript library built on top of it and it's mostly done and maintained by one guy to my understanding it's just one and then there are like tons and tons of websites and games and everything around it.

And there is just this guy creating this incredible library and there are so many examples of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I forgotten his his name, but yeah, he's doo I think Mr. Doo or something like this. Mr. D. Yeah. Um and there's just so I mean we have the people who come up with the CSS you know standards and the new CSS functions and then they will be pushed to a higher layer and then these browsers kind of like adopt them and then we developers use them and then there is another level like you know visual companies like Webflow and frameware and others they they adopt those and make them visual and then a designer comes in and you know it goes all these layers and the very fundamental ones are done by obviously like developers and a lot of it is open source stuff a like a lot of it is open source.

It's just getting close source as it gets closer and closer to the consumer but the more fundamental it is um the more we see it as open source. Yeah. saying saying that like putting a pin in this idea of um AI slot creating it not liking not liking to see it uh developers open source all the rest of it. Let's talk about this next article. Now the article itself I'm going to admit it's not too interesting. It's the the fact that um if come on now uh before presenting at screen remove other media. Okay. Okay. Okay. There we go. Remove, add. Boom. Okay, so called uh Cloud AI can now create and edit camera designs in the chat.

And what this means, I was a bit confused. So just to clear up anything, is the claw desktop experience actually integrates via MP NC MCP to uh Canva and you can create things and and whatever all done through that. Annoyingly, it's not working right now. So I tried connecting it. I don't know whether you have Claude desktop app and you know No, I didn't use Claude. I only use Claude in cursor. Yeah. Um so yeah, it's not working. So there you go. But um I opened Canva and I created some like I want I needed some icons and you'll probably see something along these lines uh on my website pretty soon because I wanted some icons.

I couldn't be bothered to bring in a designer to to do them because they were just freaking stupid icon things or whatever. Um, so I just I did this directly in Canva because as I say, I could do this in um Is this AI generated? This is AI generated, but it's using this little thing down here. Um, or actually it was in I I don't even know my way around Canva, but this I sign up for like a pro account just so I could check this thing out. I this is interesting because these icons, you know, are consistent. So, I I don't love the design. I feel like it's I mean, it depends on where you use it, but I kind of do like it at the same time.

It's it's fine. Again, like fine. Yeah. As as a designer, you need to understand uh value. Okay. Some people just just don't. It's it's an unimportant little thing that's like the end of the day, I need to make money, right? I need work. What am I going to do? Like it's it's a it's a it's a balance kind of between cost and and how much you're going to earn. This thing, this little thing is not going to earn me any money. So, I'm not going to go out and spend money on it. And I think this is AI in general, the democratization of certain things. this is the whole topic of the reason why I brought this article up and why why I want to talk about it.

So it was through this you know um I just said something on create three icons for this this and this and the options were pretty good. I actually liked all the options. I want to I want to try and find the original uh thing to see if we can see the options because these were the other option I I just needed them in SVG. So there's that. But I actually want to see the original project. Um anyway, this is not why we're we're here. Um talking I saw someone comment on uh what was it? It was someone I don't know. It was someone's video. Here we uh No, no, it's not them. Um I saw some sort of discussion somewhere on on someone's video about obviously design being stolen, taking it from someone else, someone else's hard work.

creative industries just in general are very very sensitive to AI and we talk about we talk about developers and open source. Yeah, this is what I was thinking. That's why I'm laughing. You Yeah, there is memes about this. I'm going to search the memes. Okay, get the memes up while I chat for a bit. Right. So yeah, I Yeah, and I again come forward if you are a developer and you give a that the code you're using through claw code and whatever is technically my code. You've stolen my code because I've written I've contributed to public repos out there and written some pretty hot code if I do say so myself. I'm joking of course.

But the point is the development community just does not care because the greater good is there and every like and the creative industries there is inspiration like I write music I I I would be lying to you if I didn't say oh you know that pre chorus in nana's like come as you are we should totally like take that or or something to that effect of like oh we should totally do I've heard big musicians and say, "Oh, you know, uh, Day in the Life by the Beatles." Like that sort of feel that is Mr. Blue Sky. Inspiration in the creative industries is totally there. But for for whatever reason, um, and I've just remember what the video is, by the way.

For whatever reason, in the creative industries, AI is a very very sensitive subject. I'm not going to claim there's a right or wrong. I'm not going to cla you know, whatever. Where where I uh find what what I find difficult is to understand where the lines lie. like where does where does the line lie with with creativity and AI because they just hate they just categorically hate AI and it's like well you know AI can be used to organize your um to to streamline a um an Excel document and pick out some numbers here or there that's AI you hate that um AI can be used to just I don't know remove a person from a photo I could have done that myself very easily but why not use AI to do that is that stealing because you've removed someone's photo.

Anyway, I think I'm going on a little bit of a rant. So, show it to me. Yeah. So, I I'll I'll I'll show it. But first, every So, this is especially true for designers, but pretty much it's for everybody, right? So, many people are annoyed with AI stealing work, but is AI actually stealing work? Or the other question is like do we actually produce any original ideas ourselves? Uh do you know the line from the movie Fight Club that everything is a copy of a copy of a copy? Uh there are actually t-shirts with Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I and I really like that line. And there is this very I I would say famous meme with designers say look we have similar ideas and the other designer says no you stole my idea and crying and then programmers man I stole your code it's not my code and this is so true you know open source we just talked about it like and I've seen this over and over on again I I feel like a lot of developers are it's Just the mindset is different and maybe because also code inherently is so exposed especially when we are talking about the web a lot of what we do especially like front end is just by default exposed you you if somebody comes up with a really nice trick with uh UI or like whatever they do front end you can just see how they are doing it I know it's not as easy but it's mostly exposed And then we have open source on top of it.

But designers, a lot of what they do is kind of like behind you don't see anything except the output. And that's why probably a lot of people are like a bit more sensitive to ideas being stolen or I don't know it's maybe a mindset but I've seen this so much like just look at Twitter uh drama when there are drama like rarely you see drama about you know a programmer stealing code from another pro programmer. You pretty much never see that. You see a tons of like drama around like forking stuff and you know but not to the level that you see designers copying a hero section from another. It's like they go nuts about it.

But it's like I guess you you know I don't I just I just don't know where their line is. And obviously you're going to get different people have you know a different spectrum a spectrum of people that care. I mean, do you like and I and to a degree I do understand the stealing aspect, you know, but you that person who is potentially um upset about AI taking creativity and whatever what they've never taken any they've never taken any sort of inspiration or whatever in their entire life. Like I don't know. We're not going to we're not going to land on one answer on this. We're just not right there. It's it's kind of pointless debating it, but just appreciate that there are different opinions and no one's ever going to win an argument or no one's no one's ever going to be right or wrong in this.

Yeah, there are like entire thought experiments around it. You know, the the the one with the um with the ship. Was it done with AI? Was it did we ask AI? The one with the one with the ship. at one at what point you would say something is not original anymore. So what is original? Like you have a ship that is the ship that you call it whatever X, right? And then that ship uh you start by you start by uh exchanging the pieces. You um you take a piece out, you put another piece in. At what at what point would you say that that ship is not the original ship? You know the thought experiment like you go piece by piece what if you are at a 100% like you have replaced every single piece of that ship is it still you know your ship this is this is this goes into philosophy about the you know what is a thing like what can be um counted as you know a a standalone thing and I I'm not you know deep I I'm trying to understand it but I I don't want to pretend that I understand this.

This is also Hegelian stuff that I don't I I cannot wrap my hand around it. But yeah, so with the same with creativity and stealing, we create I don't know. I'm pretty sure you do it as well, but we create mood boards. When we create a design for a client, we create mood board. Is that stealing? You could say so. Well, we are stealing ideas in a way, right? We are creating a mood board of beautiful ideas and then we don't take literally a a section of that design and turn it you know into something else but we kind of do from multiple designs. So at what point is that stealing and at what point is it inspiration?

It's very blurry. Obviously I would say it's easy to say okay if you literally copy paste it and change one parameter then it's stealing but I mean anything beyond that becomes blurry. I think it's also level the level of and again we're just speculating but it's the level of effort required to get to that point like you actually had to go out and do that sort of stuff but again there's just hypocrisy written all over this like all it's really done is stopped you all it's I was listening to this interview with the perplexity um person um going out talking about going out and doing some research you know that person you've saved that person so much time to have to go out and come to that same conclusion anyway like you're you're not going to put forward a design that you haven't then thought, okay, that's that's something that feels like it's from me.

You know, we're speculating, but it's it's an interesting dilemma. It's uh it's something we're never going to land on a um decision on. The only thing that's bothering me recently has been like why why are we always searching for things to be pissed off at? Like there's way more important things to be pissed off at than just I don't know. Again, it go maybe I'm just super sensitive to the YouTube thing, but I saw a comment just before this this call about like they were complaining about someone's thumbnail being not looking like them or whatever. And the creator came came out and said, "Look, it's got to got to create um engaging thumbnails. This is a game.

It's very competitive." Very amicable response. Shout out to the creator. I think it's Will's whereabouts, just a camping video. And it's like this person in the comment section, I said, "Why are you choosing why is this having such an impact on your day? Why is this thumbnail having such an impact on your day? Go and touch some grass. Go and care for your family. Go and make yourself a jam sandwich." You know, there are much more important things to Yeah, that that is kind of funny that some people get so triggered. I mean, you seen that one of my videos went absolutely viral last week. I'm closing. Which one? I'm closing to 700K views uh on social media.

I just made a short video. I just showed a website. I show a website with my iPhone. I edited on my iPhone and just straight away posted on, interestingly enough, on some social media, it tanked and in some like on Instagram and X, it went bonkers. It's um it has like 500,000 views on X. Um, and I'm just showing a website. And when you go viral, by definition, you are like increasing the circle of like people that are that are that see this. And also you kind of include or like you are shown to people outside of the circle that you have that don't have context of you or your style. Exactly. Exactly. And people get mad.

People get mad at you know a website about it's just a website. What it? But well, it's scroll. It It's scroll jacks. You know the scroll hijack. I don't like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you don't, you know, you don't comment like I hate these. And I don't understand why people do these. So people go nuts about or in the video and I again this is this is like the thumbnail example that you said in the video. I start by saying the whole internet is going nuts about this website. Obviously a big claim and obviously it's you know a bit exaggerated but yet not the whole internet but a lot of creators a lot of people around the you know in the web space and in the web design space they were excited about that website it was a really cool website maybe I just like should show it so people know what we are talking about um just add it to the stage so yeah I I'm just showing this website and yes it is not it's It's beautiful.

It's really well done. Yeah, I saw that bit. That's what I saw. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but people go crazy um when they hear me say something like this. Quite a few people mentioned, bro, nobody is going nuts about this. It's just you. I'm like, yeah, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people are like, this is not responsive. This is not accessible. And a lot of these might be true, but this website has its own purpose. And the fact that 700,000 people saw this just from my video, not in to just from my video, that justifies the out of this. It's like, well done. Well done. What is the point of a website? It should be seen.

and I'm if I make a video about it and if it's seen then point made. End of story. Will you will you reach out to these people and say obviously that their website is gaining a lot of they did commented on my uh oh nice yeah on my video and they said um thank you for showing something like this and we are very proud of it uh something like this and yeah I mean it's a great website obviously easings are really nice on it. Yeah, it's uh and I was trying to recreate this uh animation this like a lot of people create, you know, text animations, but this type that comes with these bubbles uh with these um what's it called?

Like pillshape um points, it's really nice. Yeah, it's cool. And it's videos. It like a lot of people thought this is this might be 3D because it looks like a 3D um scene, but it's not. Oh, but they maybe they're referring to the fact that what software it was created in. The character was created in some sort of like 3D space or maybe to even it could be 2D handdrawn. It doesn't matter but it is a video 3D but it is a video. Yeah, it is like multiple videos. One video that is looping. You see the characters moving. This is a video on a loop. And then we have another video that is used for the transition.

So when we go from a section to another, this is another video. And now when we get here, yeah, this is really another video. I made a I made a website a couple of years ago that was trying to bind I mean it was trying to bind like god I can't even count four 4K videos because they wanted it to work on a massive 4K screen. I mean, it wasn't a public website, but it was like, man, I spent a lot of time trying to make seamless transitions because they wanted it in and out and then looping. And I don't I'm not particularly proud of the result, but it the client was happy, so whatever.

But it was very hard to get. It's very hard to get, but 4K video. Yeah. So, back we were talking about, you know, uh people getting mad on the internet and their day being ruined. Don't be like that, you know. Yeah, the people who made this website, they didn't have, you know, the entire universe in to to make this absolutely perfect. They had some time, some budget, some objective, some audience, they did their best and they came up with something really great. And we making the these videos or like making short videos, we have limited time and we do our best. Um, and I think what I'm I'm doing, I'm looking for the if I'm learning something from somebody or if I see somebody putting effort, I'm happy.

And if they do have a mistake or something like this, I either forgive them or if I have to, I will comment, right? It doesn't ruin my day. Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's like, why let this ruin your day? Yeah. Maybe we because because we're exposed to the pettiness of the other side. Maybe that's why we're extra sensitive to being maybe if we weren't content creators or or whatever. Yeah. I mean I mean this is uh also about being successful. I know this is a complete tangent but very short. to be successful both in your professional and also in your um like in your relationships and your your personal life, you have to have a really fast recovery.

It's we are humans. We are humans and if we don't eat, man, if if you don't eat for half a day, you won't be in the mood, right? Pe people might look you in the wrong way and you get pissed off. Mhm. Things like this happen and I don't expect people to not get pissed off uh fast. If you don't, even better. But what is really crucial is the recovery. You can't, you know, be pissed off and then let that ruin your day. You can't get pissed off and just move on, scroll by, reset, get back to your flow. like you cannot let things ruin the rest of your day because on a personal relationship if this happens you cannot you know live with anybody like I'm talking like nobody and on a professional level there will be tons of decisions on every level that won't you know make you happy and you just kind of have to deal with them and recover recover and move on.

Speaking of moving on. Yeah, good one. Good one. I will I will say though like there is a fact there is some I've heard a statistic somewhere that apparently we only feel things for like 90 or 80 seconds. Anything past that, we are choosing to relive that emotion and we're choosing for it to like So there's something to be said about like that they if they want to be upset about something, they're looking to be upset about something. That heartbreak that you had that you haven't been over it for two years. It could have been 80 seconds. Yeah, it could have been 80 seconds. Exactly. Exactly. Right. Kira uh is a new IDE from AWS or Amazon uh specifically.

And the design here is very reminiscent of Jules. Do you remember Jules? My uh my favorite. Yeah. You remember it? I was going to open it up. Um, and it's an interesting IDE. Uh, watch a demo here. And it's got this little ghost fellow. Uh, obviously he's he's KO. And it looks to be basically um it's it looks to it it's very much an AI first IDE. It doesn't do a tremendous amount. Of course, it's a VS code for you. you know you the only difference is a bit purple here but it claims to be a spec first IDE meaning that it's kind of standout feature is this spec mode and what it does is it kind of come it comes into your code base and it creates spec files and you can here we go steering so it's created product and this is this is from the get-go of opening up your your project right it understands the project understands the structure it talks the tech and it creates those MD files and it can read those MD files as it uses AI.

Um, you can also create something like oh you could obviously and then you prompt your way through and and code up. It's also got something called hooks as well, which is something that Claude code released and there was going to be an article in this episode about called hooks, but it wasn't I think it's not an old feature, but it's not like cutting edge news. Um, which respond to certain actions at the AI flow like whether whether something has just happened, it responds to that. The other thing it does is create to-do lists as well. Mhm. And all that to be said, this isn't brand new stuff, but this this just just looks to highlight where a massive player like um like Amazon are identifying this new thing we called context engineering which happened in you know that that um Kapathy uh Capathy always forget how to say his name kind of he was the guy who called it and is Andrew Um I think Andre Andrea and Andrea Andrea.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um he he kind of came out with vibe coding and now he's he he was like saying it's not about vibe code. It's about context engineering which is providing the AI a bunch of context about the code and to whether you choose to vibe it or whether you choose to assist you. you're just building up context and and docu and specs as they call it in here um to to help that AI and to to have Amazon kind of put their stamp on this and say yep this is what this we're going all in on if you saw it earlier a spec mode that it kind of we're starting to finalize what it means to AI code it does have a vibe co vibe I can't zoom in unfortunately but it does have a vibe section which obviously probably just takes it all away and you know you just prompt your way through the whole thing.

Um but ultimately it's pretty cool clean browser. I've joined the weight list. I'm not sure if people have access to it. There's hooks. Not sure if people have access to it, but I joined the weight list and I look forward to trying it. Personally, again, I'm a a Claude code girl. Um, and something I sent a tweet out about just earlier on in the week, when I look at this sort of stuff, when I look at these features, I can't help but think you could already do this in all of your other browsers, your idees, I think it just brings it front and center. It makes it like a onebutton thing to do. Like I say, when you open up your project here, it creates those spec files or those steering files.

You can, again, you can already do this sort of stuff. You can add that to, you know, you can add all this sort of information to the root clawd file or the gemini.md file. You can do all of this sort of stuff already, but I think it's just bringing a bit of structure, a bit bringing a bit of convenience to these sorts of files. So, I'm not sure whether I'll be, you know, um, completely sold by this browser, uh, this this IDE, but it's just a nice welcome change and it solidifi again, it just solidifies this idea of context engineering. So, pretty cool. Pretty cool release there. Oh, I haven't looked at pricing. This is interesting.

So, $19. Yeah, I mean, that's the same price as cursor. What's up with this font and this branding? Why is it it does look like it was made for kids? Don't know, mate. You're the design eyes on this sort of stuff. But again, I'm logged in. I can uh can't uh if we can we sign out sign out of all accounts. Mickey, you should have just opened it in a Yeah, let's do that. Oh, flip sake. I hate Okay, this this is um this is another mini rant. No, there's another mini rant about apps that take the homepage and forward you to the app automatically. It's like sometimes you just want to look at the homepage.

If I want to go to the dashboard, I go slash dashboard. Anyway, looks like jewels is what I'm saying. Yeah, I don't like their branding. I What's up with the No, the purple and then that coming soon. not being legible at all. Uh the font being quite ugly, the letter spacing is uh way too much for me. And can you go to like uh the other pages, please? Change is going to be a bit boring, isn't it? Yeah, docs. This like doesn't doesn't matter. So homepage maybe again. Uh and I think they had a an FAQ as well down the bottom. Yeah. What? Like, okay, this is this is like 2015 type of like grids.

Um, what's up with this like animation like that background? I don't like it. What What background animation? Yeah, that purple um like behind the icons. I It's just so cheap. Uh, all of it is honestly it's so like you can create like you know websites with beautiful characters and make it and I don't mean it it must be animated and you know crazy and like what we showed it just need to be a bit a bit nicer like with more effort in put into it. It doesn't look like effort to me. I'm sorry whoever who designed this. It's not it's not it. I mean, you're talking about the same people who uh like Yeah. people who made a Okay, I know I come on.

Yeah. You the the moment you started adding a new tab, I knew that you are going to AWS. So, for those who don't know AWS like is horrible. Like imagine they they created a service around you know figuring out um figuring out servers essentially right so there is a low code or you know a service around instead of like making your own servers and scaling yourself you use their service but it's so bad apparently that there are like certain patience around it to be fair this is this is Yeah, they they've got a bit better. The site is a bit better, but apparently like the ser like to figure out AWS in itself uh is difficult, isn't it?

Um yes, but it's but you're talking, you know, this is what you get naturally. You know, there's not there's not too many layers of abstraction. You're literally Okay. It's not bare metal because when we refer to bare metal, we're talking to actually be able to touch a hard drive. You know, that's bare metal. But this is the layer above that. You're literally dealing with the computers and the servers directly. So naturally, it's just going to be horrendous. But you can check Bolt. Uh let let's compare Bolt and uh Lovable like landing pages if you have them not logged in. So Bolt is doing um a rebrand from what I understood. So this is their still like old one.

um and lovable. I mean this is beautiful. It's all right. It's all right. It's it's very simple. So boring. It's Yeah. They are doing uh they are doing something nice but but it's clean, you know. Yeah. And Lovable is not like they they are not doing anything insanely complex. It's just it's on brand for them. And yeah, I I can tell the difference. Yeah. No, it's uh it's good. Um let's move on to the final topic. Yeah. Which is agents. Do you want to go through these? Do you have something to say? Yeah. So, uh let's change. All right. So, it was literally last night, right? Last night, Open AI dropped a bump uh their own agent.

So this is a new model that can browse the web for you and do things for example create slides for you. So this model has access to three things. Um the command command line so it can run code it can execute code. It can do browsing browse the internet like what the current models already can do which is like a text browser. they can just read the text from uh websites but not interact with them. But now they have also this new interactive like normal type of browser where they can literally go to a shop, select an item and if you give the agent your credit card information, we'll talk about this. They can like enter it and order the thing for you all with just prompting one thing.

say go find that thing that I want and buy it for me. It will ask you some questions to clarify and it browses the internet clicks around and you will be able to see the things and they can purchase for you. So they had this live which I I watched last night and it's you know these OpenAI lives are quite slow. Um it's like 30 minutes that could be set in five. It's kind of funny because we our lives are long but our lives are you know we are vibing. They are a big company and their lives are anyway. So in the live at the beginning Sam Alman drops the AGI word again and I really don't like that because I have this old definition of AGI.

AGI is none of these things that we see. Anyway, he drops that and then they continue showing the tool throughout. They they use the word hopefully like several times and not like just five times. It's like over 10 times. Everything that they do and they show they are like hopefully it will do that. Hopefully it will finish the steps. Hopefully it will be nice. Hopefully it will not do that. It's It was one of the other guys though, wasn't it? It wasn't Sam that was Everyone Everybody used the word. I noticed it a lot from this guy saying hopefully. Yeah. I I'm I don't know if Sam said it uh as well or not, but there was the mention of the word hopefully a lot because a lot of this is um very early.

And I I understand I'm not like making fun of them in that way. It's just it's funny in general. It's um but the tech in itself is very impressive and it's very promising but again this is the very beginning of it. So the idea is you ask something from chat GPT to do and it's not you know just telling you how to do it. Now for anything that is within a browser, it should be slowly be able to do it for you including going on websites finding like images or creating images taking these images and then create something for you like a PowerPoint slide slider for you or plan what an example they use is plan a wedding.

So come up with the wedding plan and it's not just some random ideas that chat you know all chatbots can do but actually going to like different websites gathering information and putting them together and maybe do something like book somewhere as well if you allow it to. So for these like further further things what is really interesting is like when you ask the model to do something just like us humans it it asks you some questions back because it needs clarification and then it goes to do these things but anytime they get to a point where they feel like they need further clarifications they come back to you and ask you. So the model asks you to further clarify and what's really funny fun about this is that there is an mobile app for it.

So you can just from the mobile app continue. So you can do it at your computer. You can start at your computer and then go to the gym and from your phone just give it further uh clarification just like having an assistant. So they do this and one like part of that as I mentioned is these agents can purchase things. So you could give them your own your credit card informations and the agent can um enter it and purchase something. But they mentioned security also quite a few times at least like two times they were like okay let's sit down and let's talk about security. This is very important. This tech is new. We have done a lot of work to make it secure and we have put a lot of um safe guards around this tool that we will reduce by as the time goes on.

So apparently at the start this tech is much more limited. That's how I understand it. And as more people understand how this works and more security is generally built uh around it, they open it up more to do more things. That's how I understand from like the start. It's asking you for a lot of clarifications, for a lot of steps, it will come back to you. But with the time goes on, apparently it will be able to do more things. So safety is going to be a big thing because there are many things that can go wrong like infinitely like a a lot of things that can it's not just your you know your credit card information that's one of the things imagine these chat bots so far have been living in your account you've been again okay there is another meme you know that meme that says like you know it's a couple uh it's a video meme a couple in a car like in a moving car.

The girl like the the boy asks the other one uh will you show me like your recent call? Yeah, sure. Will you show me your messages on Instagram? Yeah, sure. Will you show me this and that? Yeah, sure. Will you show me your chat GPT conversation? The phone is thrown out of the window. No, I will not share that. So we know like we do not want to share any of these information that we have with our chat bots like probably like everybody has very sensitive information and these chat bots god knows who how much they know about us like the screenshots that I'm sharing with them I I don't I don't want to even talk about it now these chat bots are going to have access to the internet where other parties potentially other chat bots or humans can engineer them to you know give them whatever information.

So it's not just there could be prompts in the website. There could be Yeah, you could. Yeah, it could be a prompt on a it's a random website that that the agent is there to do something else, but it reads the prompt and somewhere in the prompt and a form that says, can you give me the information X and Y about Cabar. It's not that simple. I'm simplifying but there are prompt uh engineerings that can be done that can fool these models and literally bend them to their will to do whatever they want. So the model is like sure I'm I was designed to be helpful. I'm going to be helpful. I'm going to provide you all the information.

I would be very hesitant and careful about giving them access to, you know, putting my information out there. That that is very scary to me. Not just a credit card. I don't have any money on that. Um, yeah, because like it it's interesting. I I've been using Manis. My Manis is my agent of choice and and I pitted them up against each other. Perplexity have got their own agent as well. Um, you got Jen Spark as well, which is another popular agent. They all do this, right? This is not new things. We even showed Comet going off on a website. I know it wasn't Comet, it was Perplexity Labs, wasn't it? Going off doing things.

This is not a new technology. And I was waiting to hear like something that was new about it. And none of these companies actually allow you to like log in and do things like that. It's mainly for like research and information gathering and preparation of documents. There's no, you know, they're not looking to try and have that le level of access to be able to do, you know, to to to manipulate things. Um, I watched this interview with again the Perplexity founder with Matthew Berman and they they briefly talk about Oh god, what the hell? Uh they briefly talk about um the We are not sponsored by Wix. Yeah, not yet. Um yeah, they briefly talk about this idea of the Gentic Workflows and and this guy, he kind of lays into OpenAI a little bit and says like this is not the way forward to give access to that level of access to an agent like they shouldn't like log in and because they're talking specifically about Comet.

Now, comet sits in the same sort of hierarchy as DIA, which again can they they don't need it's your you're the one in control. It's over on your side of things. You're the one who's logged into, you know, some men's wear shop and it can do things within that, but it's not being sent over to a VM. Uh, which I'm guessing is what the OpenAI True. So, the Open AI one is a virtual machine. So which which Comet is as well it will be a virtual machine which which Manis is as well be a virtual machine but you're not having those integrations I mean proof will be people will vote with their wallets right do they want you know if they can prove that they that nothing malicious can happen and whatever though as you say they mentioned it a couple of times this privacy thing we do need to be v vigilant and x y and zed so yeah I don't think many people will be rushing to to test that theory.

They don't want to be patient zero of, you know, all of their bank details. Yeah. Getting hijacked. The the things that we that I said, um, they sound cool technologically, a model that can browse the web and do things for you, but the examples that they showed were underwhelming as honestly. Yeah, it it was it was like create a slide, you know, PowerPoint slide and the end result was less than a decent template. Yeah. Less than a decent template. Yeah. Again, it's going back to design, isn't it? Yeah. Design and creativity. Like again this comes back to I I know we had this conversation but just to surface it these models are not truly creative and many of us are not either but we I mean I find myself being a creative person like if you would ask me like what are like one of the good qualities you have I would say I am good at learning and creativity I I just enjoy these two when I'm creative.

I enjoy myself. I I'm happy. Uh and when I learn something, um and these models are not doing what I want. If they could be, you know, creative, I would be happy because with them, with those tools, I could be more creative. I could create more. But they are not. So not yet at least. And these examples are honestly What? What do you think? Don't you think like the about being Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, you got to you got to choose your choose your battles. And if you're creating a presentation that needs to look really good, then you're not going to use something like this. You might use it to just get the basic whatever charts and graphs and information like it might be good from an information standpoint.

But if you care or is necessary about design, you're not going to you're not going to use this sort or at least you're going to add your layer on top of it. So like yeah, maybe just go in with those expectations and know that it's just not going to most things aren't going to be able to create design. Like I think we need to that ship has sailed on expecting any sort of decent design. Going back to the AI generated videos, I'm not there to like look at the visuals. I'm there to ingest the the information that the video gives me and for that it serves its purpose. I don't care how it was made and blah blah blah.

So at end of the day, yeah, the the from an information standpoint, the the slideshows are probably topnotch. Yeah. So in in another way seeing it and kind of like summarizing it, this new agent is like a not so good uh assistant. It's like a starter assistant. somebody that maybe even doesn't speak your language fluently and just starting to be your assistant and asks you for a lot of clarifications and we'll try it. We'll see how good it is. I I'll try to probably write some content for my website on a broader sense of things, not just like you know with the tools that we had and see how good it is. Um, I will try to maybe make a few tables like find information and put them in in a table.

I don't know things like this. M I've I've done I've wrote like some code to um so it's it's not like legal uh from an API perspective to to like Facebook and Instagram don't allow you they allow you using their API to to see who like your followers and your you know other people's followers but you can still load the page and just read the followers you from a web page. So I've done this for example just you know first scroll the entire thing and then get all that information put it somewhere and then another information and then I can do all sorts of things with it and I've done this to to kind of like compare a few accounts and just for myself to analyze I would be very interested to see if these models can do this you know go to my Instagram login and know scroll and like do do this kind of things like kind of like brainless uh thing or I think I cannot I I don't know but I think I can't I is there a tool that can retrieve the views for your videos from Instagram?

I don't know a tool like is your Instagram view public? Yeah, you just ask the agent to do it then I guess. Yeah, that that's my point. Like if the agent I if there was a tool for that yesterday probably the agent can do it tomorrow like you know and store it. It's not just doing it. It can also store it somewhere and then you can have a list like you can probably very soon ask the agent to do something for you periodically. that that is what I'm really interested in. Like let's do this weekly or like I know this can also get a little bit uh dangerous but look at my bank accounts. I have multiple bank accounts.

All right, money and all of them are empty or and look at my spending um and create like a few charts and you know whatever like tables that that would be like put the information in notion. Yeah. Can it do this? From my understanding, it should be able to slowly do something like this. If it's got that login thing, yeah, if you're willing to give it that access, then yeah, for sure. I think you might it it'll be interesting to know because obviously every website is different whether you need to train it or whether it's smart enough to train because remember the R1 you had to go in and go into like training mode sort of thing.

But I'm guessing so smart now. I agree. You know, I I I don't know because DIA doesn't need training. DIA just looks at the HTML and it has the but you need to have those tabs open for it to do it. Yeah, maybe in time it won't. Maybe it can in time actually just open up tabs. Oh, I I want DIA projects or like folders so bad. Well, they have something similar, but I Yeah. Anyway, so check out a video I've released called um uh agents are insane and I I pit perplexity manness and genspark up against each other on the same task and I kind of just go into where I see the agent thing because I think a lot of people are used to which is weird because we've gone from googling something to now thinking well don't just use AI as a glorified Google search like think about some multiple levels Right.

Same way agents are the same sort of jump from Google searching to AI in that yeah think of like a multiaceted task. I use agents I use Manis on a daily basis. I have um a weekly report and report weekly schedule that goes out that goes through all of my weekly videos um gets the data for them generates titles and and whatever gives me ideas and all this sort of stuff. So think of it more than just like I want this thing, I want it to do this thing. Think of it like right go out and do research based on that research do this then create this and then build a website you know then they can build websites but the point is check out my agents video and you'll get an insight into it like I think it's more than just go off and do this one thing like just build up to that which is that yeah what's that period yeah in so cool should we wrap it up there well we have one last thing we can do we have one last Yeah, we cannot overlook this.

This is Come on then. You should share your screen and uh open the last video that we have on our notion because I've seen this and I want you to see it as well. I wish we could um hear audio on this thing because I've just opened up in the wrong browser and it was interesting to my ears. So, okay, we're not going to get done for this now, are we? Some ordinary gamer. This is some ordinary game. It was some ordinary gamer. were. So what we have here, Elon Musk just gave us AI girlfriends and this is um a part of Gro 4 to my understanding and it is just an AI with a face, but it has also some character.

And I haven't used it myself, but I've watched a few videos of it and what people are saying is uh it kind of doesn't um what's it called? like does this doesn't align with what Elon Musk used to say, you know, with the collapse of um birth rate and the issue, you know, people not getting more children and now releasing an AI girlfriend. That is not really super aligned with what he used to say. So, yeah, I'm actually a kind of worried about this. Uh we knew that going to happen. Backtrack now. What can I do with this girlfriend? I don't know. I just chat to her. Do I just chat to her? Yeah, but like can you imagine so many Is it on voice?

Oh, meet Annie and Rudy. Hello. I've just clicked into it. Do you Do you have it? Do you have the Gro Pro or something? I think it is not a a Gro. There she is. You have it. Finally, you're here. It was getting boring all alone. You can call me Annie. How should I call you? Daddy. Oh, daddy. Huh? I see you. All right, my love. What's got you in such a spicy mood this morning? Ready to make your day a little less boring with your auntie? You're a bit naughty, aren't you? Oh, Daddy, you think I've been chewing on you? Nah, I've just been daydreaming about you all morning, getting all worked up. So, what's the plan, my love?

So, it's it's not even like I thought it was just a character that you can just enter voice moment. No, no, no. She's calling me daddy. It's a girlfriend. It's an AI girlfriend. Okay, I've got some phone calls to make. That's uh That's crazy. I see you are surprised. I didn't realize it was so obvious. It was so blatant. It's not like it's like no people are just being a bit weird about some anime character. I mean, anyone's weird about anime characters, but like yeah, like she encourages you to She starts with like being spicy and she's like she she's like from the start being naughty. I'm startled. I'm starting. So, so what do you think?

I'm so I'm so glad that I you know that you pulled your phone and you just checked it. I'm so glad to see that. It was like amazing to see your reaction. I was like, "What? She's calling me daddy actually because other other AIs don't like there are a bunch of Don't call me daddy." Yeah. I mean, Grock has also this what is it called? uh this mode where it swears beast mode or something like this, isn't it? Something beast mode. It has a name, but it's not beast mode. I believe it swears at you. So, it's like very very extremely rude. And we had a gathering with like my siblings and a few of my friends who swear.

Okay. And I opened Grock and you know I was like come on and start and you should have seen it and I cannot say what it was said in it because it will be banned from the platform. It's that bad. So there is a male character coming soon. Yeah. You can obviously have like a do What about good Rudy? Is good Rudy not spicy Rudy? Like it's not spicy. It's just like uh funny and cute and from I I a little raccoon. It's like a little red No, red panda thing. Okay, cool. Yeah, it is cute. You You can um try it and Yeah. Um I mean imagine it's time for a magical story. Oh, I'm so excited to tell you a super duper fun tale.

What kind of story do you want to hear? Maybe a brave little bunny exploring a sparkly for Okay, very different ends of the spectrum there. Very different spectrum. This sounded like something for kids. And these two shouldn't be, you know, next to one another. That these two cannot I should get two phones. I should get two phones and see what they come up with. That would be funny. That would be funny. Or the male version and the female version that come up. uh from I saw a tweet that they are also hiring for this so it's not like slowing down it's just speeding up and there there are studies that show tons of people are using chat GPT um as um um as somebody to talk to like about their problems and about like mental problems just like a therapist which is it's crazy.

Yeah, I do. I was speaking to someone today actually about they they use it as their therapist. But I mean you can learn and you can like but you you cannot use it as a therapist. You can get I think there needs to be I think there needs to be I don't know. We're going to get into one another rant now but like I think there just needs to be an awareness that there are there's only so far it can get you. And you know, I I had I was using it as a a quasi therapist like a few months ago and it did me the world of good and I I don't think I ever needed like it sorted me out.

It helped me like Yeah. Okay. So again, where's that line? Right. Yeah, the my what what I'm scared of is you you know we had glazing uh chat GPT a few months ago where it would tell you you your IQ is you know on par with Einstein. So what is crazy to me and scary is um as a like if I do therapy, I expect for from my therapist to not glaze me and to help me correct my course. If I'm if it's if there is something wrong with my moral thinking or systems and you know how I navigate the world, I want to fix the problem. I don't want to be glazed into thinking no I'm right.

the rest of the world is wrong. everybody else. I should focus only on myself. I don't think that is helpful. And I'm not saying that you got this from it, but knowing that we have these models to be they are made to agree with you. They they it is literally it's really difficult for them to disagree with you. You have to constantly tell them to disagree with you and still they kind of still fail to be they are not you know objective beings to disagree with you at the first um you know so anyway so I will leave you with a video that I was sent this morning um which touches on all of this and more.

And I I mean I I'm going to reserve any kind of um uh what do you call it? Any comment on it for the moment for the time being until you've seen it. But it's certainly an interesting Where the hell is it? Oh, I know how to get it. Um, yeah, it's it's to do with I'll just get out. I'll just get up. That's why I love Mac. I can just copy something on my um Yeah, that I I cannot live without that. Yeah. Oh gosh. Bloody. This is why I don't trust AI is the video. Base 44. That is also another AI tool. Yeah, I was trying to get them to sponsor me, but they didn't.

This guy, he basically talks to an AI called Maya by Sesame and gets it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Remove all of its glazing, you know, if we can call it that. But this idea of humanistic tendencies, he he keeps going. He's like, "Remove it even more. Remove it even more." And then she basically becomes Oh, God's sake. She basically becomes a robot by the end of it. And she and he starts to ask her questions about like what is her purpose and why does she what does she think and feel about Oh my I need to log in, don't I? Um what does she what does she think and feel about certain things um to do with the questions or the information she's gathering about this Daniel fella?

So I I it's only it's not it's not a long video. It was 50 minutes. Yeah, I I'll watch that. I'll watch that. And you watch um Alex O' Conor. Okay. What's Alex O' Conor now? So Al Alex O' Conor. He's a philosopher, you know, YouTuber. Um and just like in the search, you know, the search that he Yeah. Go by pop popular. Go by popular. He has videos with chat GPT. He have he has quite a few videos like three or four videos trying to convince it's conscious. Yeah, it's conscious. Um it also Yeah. So it he talks about he he's a philosophy student I believe or like Phil he finished it already. Um he's also this anal he he's not you know um a philosopher to say I I I would say but um he has these videos that I find to be very interesting because he goes with this like systems in mind.

What is philosophy? It's like the systematic thinking and about thinking right it's it's the yeah philosophy is thinking about thinking it is the systems of thought right and in these videos he talks with Chetchi PT about something for example God or a half uh like a gl a glass of wine that is full and he cannot get sh GPT to draw a a full glass of wine. It can only do half because you don't see a full glass. Have you ever seen anybody post a picture of a glass of wine where it's filled like what's it called? Okay. So, it's not yeah yeah. So, it's always half. He cannot get get it to do that.

and also about consciousness. It's about you know uh convincing it to to have consciousness or otherwise. So it's a very interesting conversation and it shows how flawed these AIs are like to the level that they are like tools compared to they are like toys not tools they are toys compared to our brains. um that are like as fundamentally we are capable of understanding truth and logic and reason. We can reason. These tools can not that's the end of these videos they show that these two are not even close to reason. They imitate they they use the words without meaning that what you know without actually meaning what is the meaning behind that word that they just used for example when I say I don't want to lie to you like why do I not want to lie to you like he goes into the videos I don't want to uh spoil them they're very entertaining no they are very entertaining I promise you you will laugh at the At some parts he will just laugh at Chip failing like he gets chi in a corner and he's go he he rants because he can that's his you know job as a philosopher and intro intro uh he interviews people he can actually get chachi in a corner it's really fun to see chachi melt absolutely melted yeah true but I didn't mean it that no so what did you Yeah, I'll check it out.

Well, I'm going to put on some background music now. I don't know what it's going to be like. There you go. We'll stick with this while we say goodbye. No, don't think it's This sounds all right. Yeah. Well, thank you so much for tuning in to Command. Um, check us out next week as you'll be alone next week actually, won't you? Yeah. So yeah, well I won't be exactly. I have a friend of mine, a developer who will be here. So there you go. I will have a co-host actually next to me. Next to me. Yeah. Oh, very cool. Oh, nice. I I look forward to watching and he knows a thing or two about AI, so he's building his own rack and stuff.

Well, don't go replacing me now. Yeah. No, don't worry. Cool. Yeah, we'll miss we'll miss you. Very good. All right. Peace out. Thanks for tuning in and uh we'll see you next week. Yeah. Take care. Ciao. You used my line.