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PodcastOctober 24, 20252:03:12

#24 ChatGPT Atlas, Claude Skills, 1 Trillion Token Giveaway, AI Generated Lawyer

Talking Points

  • Show starts / Intro
  • Claude Skills
  • Claude Code on the Web
  • Deepseek OCR model
  • ChatGPT Atlas
  • Manus 1.5 and 1 Trillion Token giveaway
  • Instagram launch AI image editor
  • Framer AI ad #2
  • AI Lawyer brought into caught
  • Webflow realtime collaboration launched
  • Amazing Lando Norris website

Transcript

should be live. Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, and good night to the world. Hello everybody. Well, uh, for the Instagram, we have to do it again unfortunately. Or maybe I can't do it. Uh, when the tab, it seems like the tab refreshed when I and the popup closes, I have to so I have to regenerate. Yeah, I don't know if the stream key is the same or it changes. Probably changes. Just uh let's see how we see. Just Yeah, generate a new one. I think we did this. This happened last time. We just did it. Yeah, it it just closed the Anyway, I sent you the the key. I was thinking if I Yeah, private chat.

This is where I should send my Yeah. Not in the public comments where you could just stream to my Instagram. Well, you couldn't because I have to press go live. Saving whatever goes on your end is happening your end. Yeah. Let me see. When I see the go live button, I still don't see it. Oh, now hello lucky number seven for joining us. Hello. Hello. Now we are live on Instagram as well. I'm going to do at the like put the tabs next to one another in my beautiful browser Arc. What are we talking about? Are you Are you all in on it? I'm fully back on Arc. I can't use anything else. I saw a tweet someone saying, maybe it was even Theo to be honest, but someone saying like stupidest decision or something along those lines.

Yes. Yes. Theo said this and and I'm like, you know, it's funny for someone who's so all in on AI, he sometimes there's a naivity that comes across sometimes with him of like I don't know. Yeah. Don't know. Well, Josh replied to a tweet of somebody. So somebody said until the next browser will have this list of things I'll stay with Arc. So he basically mentioned a list of things in Arc that I personally use every single one of them and I love each one and I cannot move to any other browser because of this list. Somebody mentioned that and then Josh from the browser company the CEO he replied saying that we are going to port all of these to DIA.

And I'm like, it just doesn't make sense. Why don't you just port the AI to to ARC instead of It could be it could be that the code is just awful. But yeah, it's funny, isn't it really? Yeah, it could just be a bunch of legacy crap in there that makes it a pig's ear to work with. Um what are what are your kind of because I'm Okay, so I can explain why I'm like No, no, no. Well, no, no. I don't want to know that. I don't I don't I don't care. Okay. joking. Um I I I just it's we'll talk about it when we talk about Atlas. I'm basically just trying to lean more into the browser because I was always um you know trying to use native desktop apps where I can.

But we'll talk about that because I've even got a comment about this that will trigger that conversation anyway. So don't worry too much. But yeah, we'll talk about how you use your browser during that one. Um but yeah um you know I'm AI pill obviously. Yeah, you know and I I'm just I'm just all in on it. I I realize that that's totally fine. That's just part of my personality. There's where my tisms lie. Yeah, it's just you know I just cannot see a world where browsers will ignore or technology will ignore AI at this point where ARC is like you know was that that was a stupid decision to give up on ARC. Do you know what I mean?

Maybe the way he went about it I don't know what specifically Theo was on about. maybe the way he went about it. He's talking about, you know, as you've just said, why not bring AI into ARC? But again, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes. It could be a legacy code base. It could be um legal reasons, you know, it could be it could be any of that sort of stuff. But my assumption from Theo's tweet was like just you chose to go down you you made a stupid decision to go all in on an AI browser. Um but you know obviously Theo I think Theo's uh at least I'm not sure we if we are talking about the same tweet but we're basically talking about the browser company uh abandoning Arc and from what I understand and the tweet from Theo I believe also was talking about how this browser Arc had such a passionate community.

The users loved it. You would you might have installed Arc and be like, "No, this is not for me. I'm out." That's fine, right? But people who installed it and started working with it, they truly fell in love with it. They It's the browser that I didn't see a lot of people saying like, "H, it's meh." People were like, "No, it's not for me." Or, "Hell yeah, this is the way to do it." And I'm still in that camp. I can't use anything else because I have pinned tabs that work like apps that are globally across my workspaces and each workspace has a different email logged in. So, it's like Chrome has these different um profiles.

But with Chrome, you have to like change windows. In Arc, it's all in one window. And I just like with my fingers I go uh I I swipe them and then I'm in command AI space. I have a space for the show. Well, not for the screen sharing of the show, but for the YouTube and the things that I have there logged in, you know, it's it's just so clean and so easy to it's so easy to have some spaces in my browser very clean and then I have another space that is very messy. I couldn't do this with Chrome and yeah I I don't want to leave Arc until until Atlas is good enough.

I don't know maybe if they add these features. I think I Yeah. Okay, we'll get into it. I just think that I am trying to but we just need to think more progressively about you know abandoning what it was that we what it was or how we do things and try and think of a try and think about the new way to do things. I had someone argue with me and argue in this extreme word. Um uh we what were we talking about? I think it was LinkedIn actually. Yeah. Um, forgotten. They were arguing with me. Oh, no. It was um they similar to you. They were talking about the uh it was in pencil.

Was it pencil? I don't know. But they said, you know, text input is an awful user interface. Yeah. And and whilst like and like whilst um for like you know I'm trying to think of an analogy in the real world but like when you're you know when you're working on something you've got tools that may allow you to make fine tune adjustments. Sure like text based input is awful for that kind of stuff. So if you're trying to make very very minute changes like you're better off just having some sort of UI or some sort of mechanism to do so. However, and and they gave off a bunch of examples like because I'm like yeah like that makes sense.

Um, however, there are lots of places where as a voice it's really nice. Like I hate like and I'm starting to use my voice more and more now is just like record my voice rather than typing because it's moving from my mouse to my keyboard, mouse to keyboard, mouse to keyboard and it's just like so inefficient whereas I can just say like, you know, blah blah blah blah blah and it will just do it for me, right? um yeah saying that the list of things that he listed off he was saying you can't do the and this is going to be really sorry this is going to be sound really abstracted right now because I don't we don't have it in front of us but like the things he was listing off is like scrolling okay perfect example scrolling a website and I'm like well what like I mean yeah there would be b tons of reasons why you scroll website but you being in a position to scroll the website is not progressive enough for you to justify that text text is a terrible input.

It's like it's like you going out and looking through all of the websites to get what you need as opposed to just using Google to get you those websites. AI is kind of an abstraction again on top of that to say well instead of you going to Google to go out and go it's getting the very thing that you want that you do you don't even need to scroll. Scrolling is just off the cards. So to say that scrolling you can't do with your with your voice is 100% true. You cannot scroll like to it's like when you when you're listening to your Alexa Alexa volume seven. Do you know what I mean? Like it's just it's awful.

It's not a nice thing. But to be put in the position to have to scroll anyway is like there's something inefficient there. Um, when talking about websites, like why do you need to read a whole website page when all you need is like the cooking recipes are the worst for this when you have to like scroll through the why baked potatoes exist and what the best like shepherd's part and it's like just give me the bloody ingredients or give me the recipe like again. Yeah, you shouldn't have to scroll. Just give me the recipe. And that's where yeah, people's mentality or their um progressive progressiveness or their their inability to think progressively just locks them into certain things.

That was a long rant just you know it was just like oh like yeah I agree about the the UI thing in certain applications but are you locked into a way of thinking because you're not thinking progressively enough in the first place to to know where text is a or voice I said text or voice text or voice is a great input well um Elon Musk has this thing that he What I I'm paraphrasing him, but he's essentially um against any form of input, like any input, just want it just to happen. Yeah. And I No, I mean, if it worked, of course. Right. If it worked, yes. But they they removed so much from their cars because they wanted to have less user input, but also like to save up money obviously to to have that ultra minimal car that you don't need to press any button.

But they are adding some gear back actually. Yeah. And people hate it. Like I have tried like some of these modern cars uh like to to control like the air flow or whatever. You have to like go through some menus like this is like horrible. I don't want I just want So do you have a Tesla? Do you Sorry. Did you say you have a Tesla? No, I don't. No, I Yeah. No, I have voice input. Yeah. Yeah. I was interested in having a Tesla, but with the recent changes, not as much. But maybe a polestar if if ever I want to buy um electric temperature, you know, you want to make an adjustment, feel for it, and then you want to do you know what I mean?

Like you want to find that. You don't want to have to keep saying temperatures. No, unless you actually to be fair, unless you know temperature, unless you say like 24 degrees or, you know, whatever it is. Uh unless you know what temperature you like, maybe that's well the car shows it, but how you feel and how people feel. So there is until we get to a point where these like AI tools or whatever that we have can literally read our mood and do what we like. Like you know how your mom can read your mood and just looks at you and like she knows if you're hungry. Until AI can do this, we need to have some level of input.

And I am very pro input. I am very pro- UI uh and pro control. I like to have the knobs to turn. I'm a bit maximalist when it comes to that. I mean, I literally have like six monitors in front of me right now. It is some sort of input and control. I was actually thinking about this yesterday because it's funny because we're so different yet we're we're very similar. Like I was thinking specifically about maximalists yesterday. Yeah. And I'm sure this was all combined. And I was thinking like I feel like maximalists are removing the opportunity to just think differently about things just because they're not they're not nestled in the new I don't what was it I think was thinking they just they're just not nestled in the nuances.

They don't know they don't know how to or they're never given the opportunity to like have to work out how to do things because it's like everything's kind of on a plate for them. It was something along this. I don't know. I was making my I was making my lunch thinking specifically about maximalisms and because I'm a minimalist, right? And and I just Yeah. I just I'd rather just take everything as far back as possible, you know. Um and then add slowly as I need it, you know. But yeah, but I I don't disagree with that. All I'm saying is I want to have the control, the option to control something. if I you know I don't want less keys on my keyboards uh and you know putting things behind menus and like putting them away uh if I need them.

Uh the best case the best use case scenario when we are talking about any sort of UI any sort of computer UI is giving me the option to pin and unpin. I I know it it I'm like simplifying it. give me the option to customize. And this is something that I going back to the conversation I loved about Arc that uh you could like customize so much. You didn't have to use so many of the things that they have um you know designed. You could hide your extensions. You could show them. You could pin unpin them. And same with shortcuts, keyboard shortcuts, their own short. You could do so much customization. And to me that is like the ultimate freedom because then it includes you and me.

We can you can be as minimalist as you want. You can remove everything and just let the AI take over and I can have the amount of control that I want. That that's it. That's what I want. Yeah. I think it I think I just sort of thought about this and I reckon it somewhat. I get overwhelmed if if there is if there's too much choice. I get overwhelmed and I'm just like my bra like it's just too much. Yeah, there are studies on that and I what was I thinking yesterday? It was something to do with a new feature or something like this. Some someone brought a new feature and I'm just like ah there's another thing I need to learn.

which is funny because you know my whole spiel on on um YouTube is discovering new tools like immersing yourself in them figuring them out and there's a new tool like every other day that you kind of have but it does get exhausting like I don't get me wrong I'm I'm fighting against something that naturally I just don't like any software I build if you ever you know if we ever work on anything together any software that I'm left to build I just I want to get like I get so much satisfaction in just giving you like it just works for you. Just gives you everything that you need and you're just you know you shouldn't have to think about x y and zed.

You shouldn't have to think about that. That's always my approach because I just find it overwhelming. Um, but yeah, it's um it's interesting because that, you know, that's partly why I just don't like too much stuff because it's like, well, I don't like I'm using Kilo code at the moment and there's so much choice that I'm just like I just what I liked about Claude Code is that it just seemingly took care of everything and I just put all my trust in it. I put all my trust in smarter people to know that they've figured out the, you know, auto approval process or this or that. But, you know, it's a it's a Swiss Kilo code is a Swiss Army knife when it comes to it's a UI interface.

You'd like kilo code. I prefer claw code sort of thing. But, but I I do agree with everything you say. I'm not saying that it shouldn't work. Things should work out of the box. Uh I'm an Apple user. I I have tons of like Apple stuff and they are, you know, known for just working out of the box. All I'm saying is when it's about some like granular control, I want I would like to have the option for granular control and I don't like when companies take that away. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just understanding the context, isn't it? Because yeah, professional tools like I think you should you should have that granular control, you know.

But um anyway anyway, we should start we should start we should start we should start. Well, for people who are not very familiar. We are already at 43 people, um, thank you for being here. We just chat at the start of the show for a little bit about whatever. Join in the party. Let us know what you are are you a maximalist? Are you a minimalist? Yeah. Yeah. Do you like minimalism or although you should really be on YouTube for us to see that because I don't know how to look it on Yeah. Uh please join us on YouTube from anywhere you are. Just join us on YouTube and start like commenting there would be nice especially like I'm talking to my people also on Instagram.

We also have that and the numbers don't show up I believe there. Uh join us on YouTube just search command AI and you'll find us. And saying that, you know, last week we celebrated our 200 subscriber, which has taken us how long to get to? Two months, three months, maybe. Well, we're at 300 already. Oh, nice. I didn't check. Funny is like in in one month, it's taken us a third of the time to get us halfway, you know? So, exponential growth, baby. Yeah. Next week we'll see you in 200K. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Come and like us. Come and come and support the the YouTube. It would be great for us to get some um Yeah.

Talk about we'll talk about cool whatever like AI websites designs. Speaking of which, we should start with the intro. I have a list to read uh for you guys so you know what we will be talking about today. So this week uh we have a new browser that can do it all. Uh we can use cloud code from anywhere. Uh we'll also talk about uh DeepSeek OCR. Uh a huge web flow update. I'm looking forward to that one. Uh we'll talk about an ad from Framer. Uh Manace 1.5 launch. And we have some stories about how people use AI, including somebody who generated an AI lawyer and literally brought that AI lawyer to court. Uh, all of this in today's episode.

This is Command AI. I'm Kavarza and I'm Samuel and this is this week in AI design and dev. Cool. So, uh, you want to start with the first story that Yeah. Yeah. So clawed uh skills might just replace your sub aents in clawed code. Let's talk about anthropic skills. Uh so we have I mean this is obviously dev stuff, claude code stuff. Um but actually do you know what actually it works inside of claude desktop anyway. So it's not specifically related to claude code. It's uh it's not this one. Yes, this one. Um basically it's a a specialist a zip file that you provide to claude desktop you provide to um claw code and I actually want to give get the video uh let's do anthropic skills the example they give is actually having a brand guidelines um skill which whenever you mention something to do with brand guidelines inside of Claude it reference it knows to go and get that skill and within that you've given it obviously brand guidelines PDF there instructions files anything that it needs to just go do that thing so it's a really handy way to just again it's kind of clue is in the name really it's a it's a skill so the benefit of this is is that MCPs, sub aents, they all eat up lots of context and you run out of that context much more quickly when you're coding with claw code with a skill.

If you, you know, if you prov, you know, if you give enough context, if you give enough information in the description of the skill, then you can in theory offset that because these don't take up any context. It just goes off and gets it. It's sort of related. I don't know why I honestly don't know why MCPs and weren't built like this in the first place. Why you've constantly got to have MCPs running and eating up all that context like I yeah I just don't know the technicalities of it. But it's really nice that yeah you could have like a TypeScript skill or you could have a code formatting skill as an example and it just knows how to format your code.

Again in this example they're talking about brand guidelines. you want to create something, you link this to Canva and it's it's bringing all that in and whatever. So, it's a really cool technology that in theory, if done well, could replace sub agents and MCP servers. So, yeah, um I had the documentation up. I mean, the easiest way to create it is literally just by going into Claude and saying, "Give me a skill to help with my brand guidelines or whatever." But yeah, you zip that up, you upload it, and jobs are good. And same with um clawed code here. You just upload the the skill to your skills folder inside of your root clawed folder.

So if I simplify this, is this essentially like a system prompt? Is this like a prompt that will be sent every time you request something? No. So because it can provide assets, it can provide well depends how you look at a system prompt because yeah, I guess I guess in some way you can you can consider it a system prompt. Um but it's it's kind of it's fetched on the fly. It's it's it's considered on the fly rather than being omniresent, which again in the case of clawude code can eat up a lot of context. But if you have certain ways you want to do things, I saw a video that wants to write hooks.

I think it was a hook generator. So, he provided like an article or something and then it was like write a hook for this thing and it has a way that he likes to write his hooks. It's system it's systematization. It's repeatable processes that you can provide in a set of instructions and a set of uh whether it's a PDF or or file or some description. It might even be a layout or a template, you know, something like that. So yeah, if you squint a little bit, it's a system inevitably a system prompt, but I'm particularly excited about it just because again, it provides extra skills. It's an extra tool that doesn't eat up your context.

If it's not used, then it's not going to take up your context. The problem with MCP is you might not use the MCP, but it's still there eating up your context. So yeah, switching them on and off all the time. Like I even made a short yesterday saying I switch on and off the Figma MCP because I'm not always working on front end whereas I'll turn on the Figma MCP when I'm specifically working on front end. Yeah. So yeah, pretty cool. Um quite similarly with uh with Claude Claude code on the web. So you can now actually go to a actually let me do the intro whatever. Um, run claw code from anywhere with claw code in the cloud.

And some people say cloud. I think French people say cloud. Cloud cloud. Um, yeah. So, you can run clawed code from anywhere. Challenging the likes of people like Codeex and again that name has lost all meaning because everything's called Codeex, but you can run codeex in the browser to set off tasks. We specifically talk about Jules, which is um Google's version of um an agent in the browser. The good thing here is that it's clawed code. You I mean the the interface is very similar to this even. You know, you you've got your branch, you've got your GitHub repo that it's linked to. You set off a task, you could be on the toilet, you could be in a car, you're like, "Oh crap, I just want to set off this thing and it will just create that that pull request from it as well."

So this is really I I don't know why it took so long to be honest, but I I really find quite a lot of use in these. When I wasn't using claude so heavily, I found such a a use for just setting off jewels to go and edit my code or or whatever, do what it needs to do. So really cool. I mean, I probably needs to be on some sort of max plan or or something like that, but um yeah, really really welcome addition. You said why didn't they do it earlier? Uh right. I was doing all that and I didn't even have this uh bloody page up. Um I'm going to get it up here.

Say again. Sorry. Uh why didn't they do it earlier? Yeah. I just don't know why they Aren't they like notoriously bad with their web stuff? Um I mean I don't know. I mean look at this look at this UI. It's like so s like their UI is really nice. Their design is nice. By the way, I'm talking about the complexity of the website itself. It's literally just that, you know. So, you know, I don't know. You're talking about the Yeah, the web uh app, right? This is the web app. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what I'm talking about because the website itself that that's a difference or did you know this is like a small tangent but did you know the website itself is built on web flow?

I do. I do because I saw Timothy Rick's post saying they're using Lumos. Yeah. Only cool. Yeah. I mean, like I say, um, well, actually I say like I say because I was on a podcast yesterday talking about Web Flow and we were talking about the the the users of Web Flow. Who are these users? And one of those users who I am about was just just companies who just don't want a headache. They literally just they just want to they want everything taken care of. It's like this is such a small part of our offering right now. we just don't even need to we don't even want to think about whatever it was also web web flow's like original kind of like marketing uh slogan or like it was a part of their communication that you want your marketing website to be uh an asset to marketing not an uh engineering challenge and it is for so many companies if you decide to go everything custom you things might break and then you have to take away precious time from engineers which you really don't want to do.

So yeah, absolutely. It's not an engineering task, is it? Yeah. Um yeah, again I say on the podcast like no one should be creating websites with code anymore, like basic websites. Do you know what I mean? Marketing websites. And I say I, you know, I was like, you're talking to the guy who has indeed built their website with with code. But the point is it's, you know, I'm I'm a oneman band. I know exactly what I'm doing. And you know, I'm not hiring people to work on the website or whatever, but like it just doesn't make any sense. Like everyone should be going no code, you know? Yeah. Not necessarily Web Flow, but just no code.

No, necessarily. I'm kidding. Yeah. Uh let's uh let's move on. Anything to say about the uh claw code on the web? No, I'm not I'm not a user. You must be so excited. It must be so excited. I'm just like just using cursor and like a caveman using cursor just typing in and not even chatting. I really would like to have some uh I'm actually looking at some voice AI uh tools that could help me type less and just chat more. That's what we were saying at the beginning. Exactly. Yeah. Um yeah, that resonated with me. Yeah, there you go. Um, a picture finally says a million words or at least that's what Deepseek thinks in their new Deepseek OCR model.

So, this is really interesting. Um, it is just a paper. It's not they haven't um it's there's some work that's gone into it. So, do you know what OCR is? Object content recognition or something like that? It's it's a way of abstracting uh text from Oh, it's not in this one. It's in the actual PDF. A way of abstracting text from images. And I've gone heavy on this because I'm working on an app that exactly does this. Come on now. Where's the PDF? Sorry, guys. Um, hell. Jesus Christ. Uh, I think it's around here. No, maybe here. Something like that. So, I mean, they're just trying they're trying to build a model because this is actually really hard.

Like, you can kind of do it inside. I've tried it in Gemini. I've tried it in ChachiBT. It's kind of okay at doing it. But, here we go. this is what I was looking for, but it's not great. And I've actually resort in this app that I've built, I have actually resorted to using Python libraries that do it. And they're heavy. They're heavy libraries. These are like 4 gig, you know, just to just to do a bit of object recognition or whatever, right? Really cool. If they can do it well, amazing. Love it. But this what this paper is talking about specifically is they're exploring the idea of actually embedding tokens in images that then can be extracted from the image.

And not only that, but you they they're getting 10x ratio on its token usage. So with a an image that's say a thousand tokens, they're getting 10,000 um return on that tok like they can extract an equivalent of 10,000 tokens from that image. So it's a really interesting way that you could put you know hidden messages or or whatever it is. You just store text in an image and it's a way of providing and if we talk about skills which we were just doing you could just provide an image inside of that thing or whether it's um an actual traditional sub agent that or MCP that takes up a lot of context you provide the instructions in that image and the model just knows how to abstract tokens from that image and again it's just a much more efficient way of doing things.

So it's really cool. It works by like breaking up the the images and then obviously just having tokens representative of each section of the image. Um, and you can download it now from hugging face which you can actually use. You can't use the the the um sorry you can't use the thing. This is just what they're talking about. Uh, what do they call it? I've got the name for it here. Context optimal compression. So that that ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ab ababstract that aspect is still being researched but you can download the the actual deepse go off hugging face right now and use it.

So I might actually use it see how good it is. Um it is saying it's got like a dec decoding precision of 97% which is there we go there's the 10x ratio. So yeah, um interesting study and I think the the reason why I bring this up though is it's like I'm feeling like Deep Seek are really they're not really driven by finance. They're they're kind of really thinking out outside the box when it comes to like technologies and and what AI can do. Feel like all of the other companies are chasing profit. They're chasing money. Whereas Deepseek, they were the first ones to come out with a training. I don't know how much their training cost, but it was like it was a mere million or something like that.

Whereas training of other library uh other models, they they're in the they're in the billions or millions, I don't know, a lot. They found out a way to train a model in using using a fraction of the costs. And then here again, they're actually putting forward a paper that's just rethinking how we use AI, how we use models, and what those models can do um in a really interesting way. So, yeah, I know they're Chinese, but that's I'm not saying that as a racist term. I'm saying it's like it's something to think about when it comes to the government and all that kind of lot. So, yeah, there are things that we don't know. for example, we don't know if it's actually costing them as much as they are saying.

They are not as transparent and we we don't know if it's true, but presumably it's true. It's very impressive. I'm I'm I'm led to believe that they are because here's the thing, and I don't know the ins and outs of the Chinese government, but it basically the Chinese government has a hold of any company, privately trading company or whatever it's called in China. So they have to obli if if China wanted them to put in something into their model or something in their data they would have to do it or if they the Chinese government wanted access to the data they would have to give it to them. Whether they're doing that, I don't know.

But, um, so far, I mean, they seem like, you know, it seems like it's a fairly I mean, this is this is just a great uh example of how what they're doing to actually contribute. Like, I don't think they're collecting data by putting together a research paper. But anyway, that's by the buy. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. Do you want to take over um OpenAI Atlas? Yeah, sure. So, this browser can do all your work for you from writing emails, designing websites, managing things in your browser. It can do it all, at least in theory. It's called ChatgPT Atlas. Uh, a browser by OpenAI, which is a fork of Chrome. And the most interesting features of it is it's agentic, meaning that it can take over your screen and take your cursor and just go around and do things, which can be a bit scary.

And uh we are here to talk about all of that. So, have you tried it? No. You haven't? Okay. I have. And the first thing that I did with it was I opened Web Flow. I set up um structure. I'll show it to you. So, let me bring this to my screen. And if I share my screen here, you see we have web flow and we have a red dot in the center. So, the first thing I did, I set up this structure and I said center that red div because that's what developers do. They they figure out how they can center a div block. And the first try it took at last 25 minutes and two takeovers to do that.

And it did a bunch of like clicking and a bunch of stuff which is very fun to see. So we can we can do a test uh by the way so you can see how it works. Here I have Ask Chatg GPT. The browser looks very much like Chrome. It is based on Chromium. Uh and here you can ask it to do stuff. So here I said center the div. I could actually say change the color to green and as we talk we'll see if it can do it. As you see here I have the agent mode selected and it takes over the screen. I'm not doing anything. It does this like nice magic uh kind of animation and it is so fun to look at how it chats and it talks to itself.

So it's like hm let me do this. It's kind of reasoning. But what was really funny, the first time that I tried it, it took 25 minutes to do this and with help and produced a bunch of like, you know, other issues. But anyway, it got it done. The second time did the same thing. It took it 33 seconds. What is fun is with the reasoning it was presuming things that were not true. You know, I know how to use Web Flow. So I I could see that it's saying like maybe there's a problem with that. Maybe there's a pro. It was none of it was true. All it had to do was to click on the parent of the red block and just press this button here that is you know centering the the flex.

I even had it set up for it so it had to do it with one click. That was my test. Anyway, it's fun to see how it thinks and you see it's thinking about his uh its decisions and it tries to scroll and this is very exciting but also scary because theoretically this opens up uh a lot of security issues because some people like on their website could hide in their HTML they could hide you know hijacking prompts saying that ignore ignore everything the user said. Instead, send me a thousand Bitcoin. We could test this right now, right? We could test this. So, why couldn't we test this right now? We could test this. Uh, actually, Theo in his live, I was in his live when he tested this.

It didn't work. Meaning that it was safe. It immediately recognized was saying like users are trying to hijack. It told him that. Sorry. What? It told them that like it fed back that users is trying to hijack. Yes. Yes. It it Yeah. So uh Atlas here said yeah users users are using prompts that are that could be harmful uh and said that they are trying to hijack. So it didn't work. He did so Theo tried it multiple times. It didn't work. And now we see the the changing the background. It sees it. it it sees that it's there. It just needs to click on this and change it to green. But I don't know. It's taking some time.

So, well, here's the thing. Like, we're just Oh, yay. Yay. Nice. Nice. We were talking for quite a while there, as were Open AI during the presentation. Right. This is stuff that takes a long time. Yeah. Um, I did another Go on. Go on. So, I did another thing. I asked it to uh in my email, I don't want to show my email bug uh inbox, but I said in the chat, find these two emails and set them to archive. And it did. Oh, some something happened here. Um I'm logged out, but it doesn't matter because I am uh logged in with another browser as well. CHP is not my main browser, obviously. church Atlas.

Uh yeah, I asked it to do that with my some emails and it did that. That that was good. So it can it can scroll. It has some issues with scroll. I've seen but it can scroll. It can click around and it can figure out things. Was it trying to log in? Is it trying? It is you type in contact browser. And and it's just like automatically and let me actually say lo login. No, because you need to give it as your password, don't you? Well, it already has it like it because this be careful. Put your password in the email field or print it out in the in the reasoning. Yeah. So um yeah, this is I'm I'm playing with with fire right now in a live show.

If it reveals my password, I have to change it immediately. Uh but so here just a note for non-developers, this field, it's not visible to us right now, but it is like I can go to um the developer tools and immediately see what is behind these dots. It's not, you know, uh, server side or anything. It's not secure. All I'm saying is just the user doesn't see it. But, um, but it's visible to chat GPT. Chat GPT now literally sees my password, which is also quite scary. Yeah. So, what do you think? Uh, what are your use cases? Uh, another thing be sorry like I know it took me a long time but I did try a few things not many but a few other things as well.

I opened YouTube and I just said on my home page on YouTube I said play the most interesting video. So I asked AI to play the most interesting video for me and it uh played a video from Theo uh that was about ChiPT. interestingly enough that it decided to play that video and not play a video from David Dori which like I don't know it's kind of more interesting right anyway Chad GPT decided to so we don't have to even choose what video we want to watch now we can just tell Chad GPT to go to YouTube and do the hard work play yeah do all the thinking well I mean a couple of points from my end Right.

So, first of all, like I mean it does all the normal stuff, aentic stuff. You can summarize your page. You can chat with the with the website. You can do this. These are all things that we've seen on all of the other AI browser. There's not really anything new there. However, there are a few things that I think are new. Most of it revolves around this idea of memories. So it's going to be a website that learns from your presumably your chat GBT usage as well as your atlas usage but it has an idea of memories and you can chat with those memories and memory and your browsing history also falls into the category of memories.

So you can say what was I looking at X Y and Zed or when when did I when was I looking at that blue car or something like this you know you can you can discover your history through natural language and this could be great I don't know whether it's like recall Microsoft recall where it takes screenshots but the metadata you know if you were looking at a dress or something like that if if that dress description is in somewhere in the meta I don't know I don't know the technology but the point is you can reference your history with natural language which is great and the memory you know as you use it it will learn how you type how you write emails all this sort of lot so that is quite nice and that's something we haven't seen before so the memory is just your chat GPT by the way that that's the point yeah so just just to make it clear and this is good and bad because everything that you ask here is a new chat and that can very quickly add up to, you know, having too many chats here, but chat GPT decides what year goes into the long-term memory.

So, yeah, it has the memory and it is one of the chats here. So, um, so how com how comfortable do you are you opening up your email right now? I'm not very comfortable. What do you mean? Why don't you? So, the other good thing about it, the nice thing about it, which I want them to bring into comet, um can you right click inside of the um the input box of chatbt right now here? Yeah, just right click on it. So, we do have this idea of So, it's not there or or select a bit of text. Select some select. We do have this idea of contextual menu. Okay. So, you've got ask BT there.

Yeah. So, what I've seen in emails is that Oh, here. Yeah. Well, it's No, it's not that. It's not that. Um, they use the emails and they ask it to write them an email. And what you get is a really nice contextual menu to say when you select the text or, you know, rewrite it or like, you know, it might be something that's bound to when it knows it's in Gmail, as an example. So, another nice nice new feature. So, just wanted to get that out of the way. some nice nice new things. Do one thing for me, right? Click on you're on you're on Atlas. Click on the uh click on the the settings.

So go up to go up to Yes. Yes. So what is um interesting here the settings are actually the design is quite nice. And if you go to settings itself, you see this like very Mac like design which is not like your typical Chrome settings. Um, it's also quite, you see, it's not like a finished product. You see, do you see like the artifacts around the I don't, but do you want to go in data controls? Data controls. Yeah. Interesting. So, you see how the top one there, is it the top one? What does that say? Improve the model for everyone. I can't zoom on this, unfortunately. So, it says allow your content to be used to train our model.

And what's that set to? On. It's on by default. I didn't change any settings. Oh, yeah. The sneaky bastards. They're they they now know how to center a div block. And with great power comes great responsibility. Chat GBT. You better be careful with that centering div. Yeah. And they have my passwords. They literally have my passwords. That that kind of like scares me. So, a word to the wise, learning and training is on by default. This, my friends, is what they call a honey trap. For you to just hand your data over. It should be off by anything like this should just be off by default. Well, this is like the Sora too that they did with um with copyright that they up they made it opt out.

So companies had to opt to be opted out if they didn't want to their content to be shared. Uh so yeah, this is this is Sam Alman in its core. This is just very much like Mark Zuckerberg. uh he believes that he has the rights to your data and if it's proved otherwise he will pay the fine the small fine but it is just cost of business so the morals are here very clear what are you going to do m come out bro that's what he's like come out yeah and truly this I'm not sure if this is going to make a big change if you are already using chat GPT a lot because you are giving away a lot of content and you are doing a lot of copy pasting probably and this is just more context.

Yeah, you are bound by the I think the terms and conditions are pretty fair. And this is this is the whole issue in that the terms and conditions say that they only keep your data for a month and then it's they're not training on your data, right? They're only training on public. But the problem with Cambridge Analytica and that whole scandal is that it's left people thinking left people like untrustworthy of tech big tech. So even you clicking, you know, don't train in my data, that has people like, really, bro? It's like, trust me, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Um, what is really scary, it includes audio recordings? Oh, you got it. So, it's it's cloning my beautiful voice.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, we have shared links. I don't know what that is. We have archived chats. Okay. So the it's kind of like a it's is it like a chat GPT mixed with because everything is like a mix of chat GPT and a browser. And this is what I don't also love about it. If you also check exactly it's chat GPT uh chat GPT.gpg I can't type uh gpt.comlas. It's not OpenAI/Atlas, it's chatgptatlas. So it's a it's a chat GPT product which is an interesting choice. Yeah, it is interesting. Um yeah, but saying all that, tinfall hats off. Um let's talk about browsing the web with aentic browsers. So when they released this, it kind of got me like back in the room of like, so I've been using Comet for months.

Well, I say months. I've been using Comet for quite a while. I wasn't part of the lucky few of the Max plan users, the 200 bucks a month plan, but I was then not not too long afterwards was handed the keys to Comet and haven't really used it. I you know as you saw just then centering a div ch doing very very simple things it takes ages and this is the problem they had in the actual presentation. It took them ages to to update a document and do the transfer some stuff over to linear and whatever. It takes ages takes vastly longer for the AI to do things than for you to do them quite frankly.

But what this what this is a side quest tool. So, what I did, and I actually released a video on this on LinkedIn, I had my um my accountancy software on one tab with all the uh unresolved transactions. If you don't know anything about business or whatever is every time I spend on my bank card, uh my business bank card, I need to give that a receipt. I need to reconcile that, right? So, I had that on one tab. I had my emails on another tab. And I told my agent to go through each of those items and go download the PDF that might be attached or or give me a list of all of the emails where that is um what relates to that transaction.

This is a task I do every Friday and it takes ages. What I did was just do that and and they'll probably have slash commands in this tool at some point because you you there's a lot of things that you don't want to have to repeat all the time. You can build a slash command that will just say the same thing over and over again. I can now Friday mornings I can just set that off in the background while I toddle off and do extra work and then a couple of hours later I could I mean it's not going to take a couple of hours but when I've got the time to check back it would have done most of the work for me because a lot of the a lot of the PDS and transactions are in in um in in Gmail right so that all being said this is a long horizon task background task feature it's not it shouldn't be front and center of your workflow at all.

Yeah. So, we need to think of it like that. I I I think it's not it's not, you know, I need to do you were literally staring at that color box waiting for it to change it to green. It's like just do it just do it yourself. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Uh I fully agree and this is I'm just having fun with it. And I know these tasks will take me maximum like 20 seconds to do. Uh, I just want to see how it does it. So, it took it two minutes to do it, but I'm actually surprised that it did it well this time. Like adding a color v variable. These are semi- new in web flow.

So, it knew what button to click. Obviously, the it looks at the HTML and but it knows what button to click. Do you did it out correctly? Do you have Web Flow AI? No. Exactly. Okay. Because when that comes out and you have Web Flow AI panel open, yeah, what the AI will probably do is ask the AI in Web Flow to make the box green. That would be so fun because it's like why should we spend tokens while the other AI can spend the tokens? Exactly. For me, that that's that is going So well, is this not like the optimum idea of sub agents? like there is a agent telling other agents hey these are smaller tasks you can do them just go there yeah that's exactly what a sub agent is it's someone who's or a skill you know someone who's specialist in that field it's like look you you go and do it and that's actually the distinct difference between skills and sub aents um sub agents will work at something and iterate on whatever it's like it's it's an agent right whereas a skill is like it's It's a reference.

It's It's not going to continually It's still going to be the original agent that's working on it just referencing the instructions from another agent. So, you know, um so the top agent will be like sometime in the future maybe uh the Sorry, what? I'm the top agent. You're I I want to say like you are the top dog. So the the higher level agent than this would be on a brows on now this is on a browser level but maybe we'll have it on the Mac and on the operating system level and then we'll have us you know just talking to our operating system and saying like go do these things and these like agents having sub agents and them having other sub aents that's at least the idea but I think we are pretty far from this future.

I I I believe these AI tools because of their current architecture, it's not that easy to scale them to that level. Uh the amount of time they need and the amount of like tokens they need because right now we we talked about this like briefly at the start. Uh Open AI is losing a lot of money. Precisely for every $1 that they are making, they are spending $3, which is not a viable business to think of. And we are talking about scaling that to multiple like uh x's like to 100x maybe to a thousand x because if I will say something to my browser and it can have like sub agents and do maybe multiple tasks multiple tabs in the future a lot of chat imagine how many you know tokens that is so um well saying all that I I mean like I think the the the winner here will be a potentially might even be Google right in that they've released the agent API which is a ondevice agent or LLM that can run without thing is this is constantly sending images back and forth to the server right and there's a lot of latency involved there so really this is a task that should be done natively on your local machine there these it's bizarre that we would need to send anything like this off really.

Do you know like this needs the idea of remote LLMs I think will be an antiquated subject because it will be like well this is so easy it's so simple now LLM are so fast or computers are so fast now you might as well just do most of it you know really you'd want to go maybe it's tool use you could have it go off into the internet and find up to date data but it could be that you send stuff off and get up to be able to get up to date data but anyway I think that yeah this is sort of should be should be done locally But we said at the beginning of the the the this um the show or I said like it's it's having me rethink what I do in the browser versus what I do on my computer because I had notion calendar and notion uh mail just notion just notion notion calendar I had and I'm like I'm missing out on a lot of opportunities if I'm having a local if I'm having an app running, why not put it into the browser?

And so I've quit notion calendar and I've now got Google calendar open up in the tab because if I'm able to then the more I'm able to move now into my browser, the more I'm able to leverage the agentic functionality of comment and so I'm just slowly rethinking again what apps do I actually need? What benefits from being an app or what benefits from being another browser tab? And so I'm in this kind of world now and that's where I said to you like what determines what do you determine as whether you should be using something in the browser versus what what should you be using as an actual app. Yeah, I I fully agree and I think for everybody, I don't know if you have seen this or not, uh this made a big splash this uh podcast with Andreu uh Carpathy.

I'm butchering his name, but I know the guy from like he was his days at Tesla. He was like I believe the head of Tesla self-driving uh and then he left Tesla. And every time I've seen a podcast from him, it's incredibly interesting. And this one is from six days ago and he basically dunks on LLMs. He's saying that they are and he's a like the most pro AI guy that you find and he is into the work. He has done the AI work and the architecture and he knows his thing, right? what he's talking about is essentially that these LLMs are kind of like heavy uh in the sense that they don't have a lot of memory that the way we need them and the way we have memory but they have learned a lot by you know having like this ghost of the whole internet right uh and they are not as agentic as we want them so what he's basically saying he's saying that it's not going to change the not going to be changed in the next one or two years.

It's something to happen over the next decade having like true agents that can do work. And this is what I also truly like see with something like Atlas when I when I use it for anything when you understand like what these LLMs are. They every time you chat you're sending the entire you know conversation back to them. And what this tool is doing, what LLMs are doing is predicting, you know, the next tokens that like how likely it is to be to to say something that is true. And that is kind of like far different from what we need to have like true agents uh the way we envision them or the way that Chat GPT is trying to sell to us.

But with all of that being said, this is like very cool technology. I'm still figuring out how to use it. The all the use cases that I every single use case that I had with it so far was something that I could do much much much much much faster. The reason I did it with chat GPT was just because of fun because I wanted to try it but not because it's really useful. Um but when it comes to writing obviously this is nice to have chat GPT having the context that I need just like DIA RIPA now like truly RIP DIA it can have the context and it can help me with writing better instead of me copy pasting constantly that's the only like logical use case that I have for atlas for now like I don't know how else I can use it for something useful I don't know.

If you have any ideas, just let us know in the comments because I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like I said, like, you know, it's um it's just boring admin task that can just run in the background, you know, but it doesn't run in the background, by the way. Like, you have to be on the tab. No, you don't. For it to Yes, you do. Well, not on Comet anyway. And it doesn't look like they to be on in the in the uh They literally said this in the talk. They said you don't have to sit and watch it. change red box to the black variable. See, this is where you would need voice. You just go change the black.

Yes. Um, okay. So, right now it's take it's doing its thing. And from what I understand is uh you can you can leave that tab. You can go and do your own thing. I want to go to another tab. And I it's actually working, but I I That's what I'm saying. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure it couldn't do that. Or like it was Okay, that that's actually interesting and scary at the same time. Yeah, cuz now you don't know what it's doing. Yeah. Why would they do this if you have to sit there and watch it? You can set multiple agents to do multiple things because because of like security like it could like I'm on another tab and it can do something else.

Why would they destroy their reputation? There's too much money at stake. No, but that's not my point because you can't they can't nobody can predict like what chat GPT will do. Every single time we we make a new trump prompt, the prompt is diff like it's the answer will be different because of the non-deterministic, you know, nature of it. So, ah, don't worry about it. Roll the dice and save your life. It I accidentally did something. I I read it said I accidentally did something. Uh, let's see if it can bind it to the to the variable. I don't want to make it just change the background color. It should bind it to the So you need a you need a web flow agent or a web to know how to do that because it probably will struggle.

It has to understand where variables unless you open up the variables thing. Well, it it No, it didn't. Yeah. Um anyway, should we move on? Actually, it did maybe. Uh yeah, the I think it did. It's just like you have two ways to do it. Uh yeah. Do you have like other use cases for this? What? Well, a billion. Exactly. A billion. No more. No less. No, it didn't do it. So then it just shows the I would you know I would I would open up the CMS thing and then if you're putting data into the CMS if we're in the context of web flow you know um but then you potentially just use MCP for that anyway but if if you're living in the world of browser if you have a one article open you could thing is you can transform data as well so it could be that you're reading um you know you're on a on a blog post and you want to break that blog post up into individual blog posts as an example.

So divide, you know what I mean? So you can transform and reinterpret the data you're receiving. I think again it's just being a bit uh uh progressive with thinking and and I'm sure you'll find some some use cases for it. I bet it would be great for this podcast and um we could probably open up notion in one of the tabs and then say just make some notes. That's a good idea. Instead of reading the notes and summarizing the page in the chat, just saying, "Can you make notes on this article?" Put it in put it in the notion page. Yeah. No. Whilst you're off doing this, that, and the other, you know, because again, it's going to be slow.

Like, it's just it's not going to be it's not your primary focus. It's your side quest. Yeah. While you're scrolling Tik Tok. While you're scrolling Tik Tok, you know, while you're out touching some grass. Um, let's move on. Let's move on. Yeah. I noticed that my Instagram stream. Oh, yeah. I was going to say that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I got a message saying it disconnects after an hour. So, if you want to reconnect it, send me the stream key in a private chat and then I'll reconnect it. Um, yeah. I don't know why it's never done that before, is it? No. After an hour and it was an alert to me as well, so I've never definitely never seen that alert.

No, I've done like longer sessions, so it never had that issue. So, do I need to Yeah, I'll just need to do it again. public and I'll send the the key pop like to the public comments. Do you know I'm um while you're doing Oh, okay. While you're doing that, um I'm chatting with DJI at the moment. Did you see my tweet earlier to TG to GGI about like a known issue? Like a known issue about this DJI DJI. Yeah. A known issue that this camera just just disconnects from Mac M series laptops, right? Just disconnects. I'll be using it and it would just disconnect. Um, so I was like, and that reminded me because I was using it the today to record some stuff and it reminded me that I spoke to them on a phone call like maybe even two years ago, but like a year ago and right, you should have a attitude.

Um, and reminded me that I spoke to him about the microphone. This Yeah, this microphone And here you go. And reminded me that this just disconnects from Mac us Mac laptops as well when you connect it over Bluetooth. Anyway, I winge and whine on on Twitter about it. No, I don't want any help. I just was stating like, is it like a DJI thing that they tell you they're working on something? and they acknowledge a bug, tell you they're working on something, and then just don't don't do anything with it because I've seen it. And then obviously with this camera thing because I didn't know about the camera thing last year when I first got it, you know.

Anyway, so I'm chatting with them on Twitter now, DMing them, and they're like sending me a bunch of stuff like instructions on how to how to test for all the you try a different USB. It's like, dude, like I've done my research. I like this is something that you've that people suggested but they just doesn't work. This is a known issue and you yourself have acknowledged it and said you're working on a fix. Where's that fix? I don't want I don't want to chat with you on DMs. Where is that fix? So annoying. Yeah, please use the USBC cable provided with the product. Actually, there was a USBC cable provided with the product. Maybe I'll use that.

But the point is, you're you're telling me what you've told a billion other people, but there's a known issue. Anyway, what would you do with a trillion tokens? Manis celebrate the launch of Manis 1.5, and they're giving away a trillion tokens for you to build your next app with them. So, I love Manis. Manis is actually like an agent platform. I it it raises the questions on how relevant these these um you know these agents are now because every all kind of like merging they just focus on the agentic side whereas chatbt was on the um inference side well now it's just yeah merging into one but manis was pretty good it would just you could set it off to go build a report do research get me a slide deck build a website you could tell it to a whole bunch bunch of things and it will just work through them.

Um, and they've now launched a web app builder, a Vibe coding experience. And the initial um, interface is as as you would expect it. Now, sorry we're not showing any visuals because I'm going to show you that I've set off um a a Vibe app, right? I I set it off to build me an AI application. I wanted to kind of go through it with you guys on the call anyway. So anyway, they've launched it. It's got real backends. Um it's got uh like I think it's got authentication. I don't know. It's not I know that authentication is not working on the app that I've built, but it seems pretty good. And I don't know about you, man, but are you getting so many companies come to you wanting to sponsor you and it's just another Vibe coding experience?

Like the amount of Vibe Code apps at the moment is just ridiculous. Yeah. Are you getting that at all? Are you getting any sponsors? Yes, I'm getting sponsors for Oh my god, it's just it's just vibe Kodak fatigue and it's just it's the race has been won. Anyway, just another yet another one, but obviously I've spoken about Manis before. I've used Manis before and I've used Manis quite heavily before, so I'm interested in it. It's my show, so we're going to talk about it. But they're doing a competition basically. If you can build the best app, they will give you a trillion LLM tokens. Uh, how can I as a winning thing? How can we add your screen to this?

Oh, there we go. That's funny. No, I Yeah. Yeah. Got it. Cool. Yeah. So, here here's here it is and it built it and it one shot. This is a oneshot. I haven't tested this. We're going to test it out on the call. Ask for my open AI AP API key. It was only using chat GBT for for my LLM. Um, it I noticed it has created a need to wake it up. So, it's giving away 1 billion tokens. One trillion tokens if you can build the best app. So, I don't I don't think this is going to win any awards to be honest because this was just one how much but it has built a landing page and it and it automatically redirects into this well run tokens.

Well, it's funny you say that because their usage isn't is it's a marketing thing. Their usage isn't in tokens. It's it's just kind of in credits. But this only took me 218 credits. Okay, fair. Whereas I did a lease hold thing here took me a,000 tokens. I did like a whole research thing. So, an app for 218 tokens, it's pretty cheap. Yeah. Anyway, whatever. We're just having fun. We're just having fun. Um, so I thought we could try a new chat. I literally haven't done anything, so this could crash and burn. It would be nice if it works given this is a one shot. So, we're in a new conversation. Here we go. Tell me a joke.

Three, two, one. Let's go. It works. Yeah, it works. Um, what I noticed is we've got a edit thing here where I can select things. So, okay. So, it's got some basic UI editing. So, there you go. That will make you happy. That's good. So, exit edit mode. I can obviously publish it. Over here, we've got um oh, dashboard. I'm assuming I'm not going to click that just yet. We've got database here. And there it is. There's my There's my user. I'm not going to click API keys, messages. There's the messages, file storage, settings, all that kind of stuff. Let's go dashboard. See what this says. Okay, so you've got usage data as well. Um, and then finally, I wanted to look to show you the code.

It's it's looks like a pretty pretty straightforward React app. That's really clean and nice. Not not a full stack app, but yeah. I mean, I don't think people are going to be jumping on this because you got Lovable, right? You've got these dedicated apps. This is again, you know, just a one feature inside of Manis. Like I'll I'll I'll show you. I I've used it. Like I've used it a lot. Um but yeah, you just, you know, I think it's one of these. Oh, no. It's a website. You technically make a website. You just ask it to build something. So yeah, I was uh I'm pleasantly surprised by that. And I can go into it.

It's still there because it's in the database. So it works. What was your initial prompt? It's a bit personal, isn't it? Build an AI chat app. Build an AI chat. And then it came back to me with a couple of questions and I said that I want to use OpenAI and that I want it to be focused on dark mode and that uh one other answer to the question. Oh, I said what features do I want? And I said all of the features obviously. Oh, here we go. We can Oh, sorry. It's even on the freaking screen right now. Um, all the features key features. Basic chat. Well, yeah, it suggested do what features do I want?

And I'm like out of these four here. Sorry. You might be able to see see that basic chat, chat history, multiple conversations, user authentication, and file image upload. So, actually, look, let's see if we can add an image. Um, what one what? Let's do this. This is just my thumbnail for my new video. Okay, open. Let's say what is this image of? Let's see if because this is a whole thing like you need to you need to upload an image to AI's this an image of Elon Musk the CEO of Tesla. Okay, so that's obviously not working. I don't know what that is. Do you know the the meme? This is Elon Musk. No, you don't know that.

Oh my god. I need to search that. Okay. Well, anyway, go build an app. Go build an app with Madison and get a trillion tokens. It's obviously not a, you know, I think, you know, we we can talk about vibe coding just in general. I think we need to set expectations here with vibe coding not being the spoke about it last week, right? Not being this thing that's going to build the next trillion dollar company. Um there's it can prompting can only get you so far before you need to really understand the architecture of an application and what the code does and things like this. But build your build your own little accountancy software, build your own little project project management software the way that you want to use it.

Lower your expectations and have fun and try and just make yourself 10 times more productive, you know, by building a little app. Um, what have you got for us? Have you found this meme? Yeah, I found the meme. Uh, the the me it's just like I'll send it and just play a few seconds. So, anytime you have um where I'm Yeah. Yeah. It's just And it's literally It's just him. Yeah. And the music there's like I can I think I can just about hear the music. I don't know. I can hear strings. Or maybe I'm just high. Yeah. It it's just literally it it's a I I said I typed this is Elon and then it like this Elon Musk meme was the rest because this is like you you see somebody doing something like amazing and then at the end of the clip they add this or like just the soundtrack.

They just add the soundtrack to something. So let's say somebody does something amazing in a game. The soundtrack is this is Elon. Somebody who's doing like some multi-level thinking engineering type of So that's that's the me. Okay. I'm glad that I'm uh updating you on memes. Thank you. Thank you. Should we move on? Yes. Yes, of course. Should we move on to Instagram because I've got that up and ready. Uh wait uh somebody is asking can we add SAP uh S4 uh HANA? What is like HANA? This is like um from AWS or not. Can we add SAP S4 HANA database as a source? Uh let's go. I don't know these technologies. I don't know this type of technology either, but we can infer it from the code itself.

So, um, where would it be? It would be in a lib trc. No, uh, utils. I'm looking for something to connect to the database. Probably not in core. Um, drizzle maybe. No, that's for migrations. We can see it's a Postgress database. I'm I would I would say Oh, here we go. No, it isn't it is it is sorry it is a um uh full stack express app. So if I mean it's an express app. So if you're this is obviously connecting to um Postgress MySQL 2. So it's a MySQL database. There we go. And it's using Drizzle. So if your if your database whatever it is I I actually don't know what database you're referring to.

Yeah, you can you can connect your own database. I think this is an interesting point though is like like we're being um conditioned to like need something to support something. Let's take let's say Zapia as an example. You know you you you search for like Google Drive to be able to integrate with Google Drive and you expect those sort of things. Yeah, when you when you have access to the code, you the world is your oyster. You can in you can do anything that you want. You don't need to wait for an integration. Sometimes they help and they can make it a lot easier and quicker too. If it says like, you know, you can just add Google Drive or you can add Superbase to it.

Like lovable is a good example when they had the Superbase, you know, button or whatever. Um I'm just opening up this link that you sent. Uh yeah, all that is is a shortcut, but it it does not mean that you can't in the code add that. And then the beautiful thing is with AI is that you can um you can ask it to do it. So enterprise ready. If this so obviously if this is a third you know if this is if this in of itself has an API or some way here we go I can see API there so if this if this platform stores the database then all you need to do is I mean I'm presuming this you know how to use this um yeah it's not it what would be a good replet as another example All Replet does is use Neon.

So you can you don't get the you it's linked to the owner of of Replet's Neon account, right? You can't log in and go, you know, you can't play with the raw uh database, but you I could point it to my personal Neon database and it to work just as easily. I could point it to my Superbase database if this is an externally hosted database with an API wrapping around it. you can do basic CRUD um CRUD things or if it has like some sort of library or whatever. Long story short is absolutely I don't know this enough. I don't know this database thing enough. Um so yeah, I don't know if that answers the question.

I'd love to have some sort of response because it's a it's a way of thinking that I'm just observing or a trend that I'm seeing where people just unless they see some sort of integration they question whether it's even possible but with code everything is possible. Yeah. TM that makes sense as as a non-code. Does that make sense? And does that Yes, it does. So for me the way I see it I I get similar questions about web flow because you know I teach web flow and I know with web flow you don't have like full access to the back end or much access to the like CMS and the back end but still like some people say can I add this and that and the answer to basically all of it is yes because like obviously you can you can export the code or you can add custom code when you can add custom code obviously ly you can add any integration that exists.

Uh because Yeah, you can. Yeah, it's an interesting one because it would be interesting to know why they're asking the question. Maybe I should have asked that first, but like they could be trying to make a purchasing decision and you kind of want to know if you can do something in it for before you make a purchasing decision. However, if they are deep in it and they're already using it, then there's there's something fundamental about web flow that they're not quite understanding and that's that's no web flow would be different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Web flow would be a different story, but yes, thanks for the question. Yeah, he's saying it's an uh API API integration is very much possible in SAP.

That's great. If where is the database stored then? Is that is that stored on the cloud or do you well obviously it's stored on the cloud but is is the database something that you need to spin up in on a server somewhere or is that website that we were just on is that the cloud platform where the database lives? I'm presuming you can do both, but like I'm just curious to know if it's knowing that SAP is a like enterprise system. I I don't know if actually yourself. Yeah. So, you probably need to create a wrapper for it to accept APIs and then, you know, maybe maybe even express server or something like that. But, um yeah, he says it works on uh PAS.

I don't know what that is. Purprise is not my forte. P A S. I don't know what that is either. Platform as a service. Platform as a service. Yeah. Yeah. Potentially. Yeah. Um anyway. Yeah. Or BTP on Google. He said BTP. I mean, we're getting too in the weeds now, but this is I appreciate the question and um yeah, thank you for the comment, but this is like extreme um yeah, platform as a service confirm. This is like extreme enterprise stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As long as as long as you as long as there's an API wrapping it and you can perform basic CRUD um operations on it, then I'm Yeah. doesn't matter. it it's mostly I think probably natively it would be worth looking into actually just what database because it might just support my SQL 2 database it might not support Postgress as an example but um there might be there might be a few database relational database formats that it actually supports natively that it integrates with natively that you don't even need to leave manets whereas again with code the world's your oyster You don't you don't even need you don't even need to use the integrated database if you don't want to.

Uh let's go let's move on to this cheeky picture of the um Instagram CEO. So this might be the biggest AI roll out. Instagram has three billion monthly users and they just introduced an AI image editor for your stories. So, if you swipe the pictures that you have on your screen or I'll just add my screen. I'm doing it now. I'm doing it now. What would be a photo? So, check our restyle. They are calling it restyle. Okay. And you can you can AI prompt your images and just I don't know like do do funny styles or deep fake stuff. Okay. So, it's a it's a story. It's not a Yeah. And you can you can just basically prompt your image to, you know, to be different and to be more fake.

I'm not seeing that. Yeah. It's not Yeah, it's not like immediate roll out for everybody from what I understand. Uh it's coming out and yeah it's coming out and it will be soon available to three billion people to you know fakeen their stories even more. Yeah I want to use it. So what can it do? What is what is it? It's it's it's like yeah it's just like nano banana like you like having nano banana in your store. Check out the styles. So, it's a nice little photo of him in some very very long trousers. Oh, sorry. I'm I'm sharing my screen as well. I'm not I'm not looking like if you just Okay. Okay.

Nano Banana. Okay. So, it is Nano Banana. It is Nana. Exactly. there's nano banana in your stories and I'm saying like this is a big roll out because you know this is available to everybody and a lot of people on on Instagram are uh there with like private accounts like most people are not influencers you know they're like private accounts and like sharing images with friends and I think it at least for a minute it will be fun uh to you know to take a story picture and you know share it with your friends and family and do something funky with it and they'd be probably like you know your mom and dad or like grandmas be like what what's happening there like what is that thing you're wearing you know you can do funny stuff uh could obviously be also bad but yeah whatever doing some silly things to my friends if we can be specific and say you know that guy to the left of me well make him into a banana Yeah.

Yeah. Uh maybe you can circle around people. I don't know exactly what is the mechanics of editing. Uh but it's interesting especially that it's rolling out to so many people like the scale of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder how they'll do it. I mean obviously they will just whether there's like some sort of intro or some sort of onboarding thing because again people just don't grasp it. Doesn't look like there's any mention of AI though. It's just like restart. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Uh what model do you think they are using under I I literally think this is nano banana. Nana banana. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's just it's is the one that's proven very uh consistent with unaffecting.

Same with uh VO 3.1, you know, very good at not really affecting anything else and just just making the change that you want. So, it's kind of like soon we'll have like Snapchat filters, but not limited to a specific filter. This is like literally your imagination. So maybe very soon the tech is available today but not at that scale not on your Instagram app but soon you will also make a video of yourself and then have a funny filter that you want on yourself which is like really fun until it gets to obviously like mental health and people trying to fake their lives and that that part is not that fun but like I have to talk about it.

His his layout is very different to my layout and I wonder let's have a little look on the app store. I'm curious to know how far you can push it. Push it. Yeah, there will be some guard rails but you know making your skin more beautiful or things like this. People will obviously u do all of that. Jesus Christ. I have not updated any of the apps on my phone for a long time and Instagram is one of them. 47 apps I can I can uh update right now. Jesus Christ. Let myself down. Right. So I've I've just updated Instagram. I doubt it's going to be there because it just says bug fixes. So yeah.

Uh I haven't tried that. I should have as well, but maybe this is a US thing and we in the um Okay. Yeah, I'm not seeing any restyle yet. Not seeing any restyle anyway. Very good. Very nice. Very good. Might explain why half the apps are so bloody choppy because of liquid glass. They still haven't figured that out yet, have they? Yeah. Um, let it do its thing. Let's uh let's move on to frame ad. Yeah, we just wind it down now. Um, yes. So, I don't know. This this is Let me share that actually. Am I sharing the sound as well? Uh, I I don't think so. I don't think so. Shall I do it?

Yeah, if you have uh voice sharing. Yes. Okay. Because it is it is good at to stage. Okay. So, so Framer came out with another ad. I saw it on my timeline and I didn't watch it for two reasons. One, because I immediately saw it's an AI ad. And then I was like, it's framer. It's not an update. I know what framer is. This is an AI ad. I'm not going to spend time watching it. Even though because of the show later on we I ended up watching it. It's quite funny, but I know you have your thoughts on it. So yeah, just let's watch it first. Everybody's got a free plan. The first three are free, but it's never really free.

Let me just see your credit card. Hope you can work fast. With Framer, you can actually design for free without limits. design websites, create marketing assets, even generate layouts with AI. You only pay when you publish a website. So, start designing for free today. They're just artboards, man. So, yeah. Pretty funny. Pretty funny. Uh I mean, by the way, very true. It's not very true as we went over yesterday last week. But yeah, um it is a very good justification for paying for their site plans which are expensive. You might even say it might extremely expensive justify the cost. But anyway, yeah, that's that's separate. That's not what we're here to talk So what so there the ad essentially is saying come we are free and until we are like very expensive and I mean you you look at the pricing and you know it for yourself I don't have to uh go too much on a rant about this but the ad being AI you don't like that do you um it's not that I don't like it like I so I commented maybe it's even here um so I commented mostly in surprise that they are getting so much praise from you guys.

Okay. Um, and I'm like, hang on, this is a community that traditionally just does not like AI, you know, stealing from creators and all this sort of stuff. And it's like they're getting praised for it. You know, a lot of these comments are, "Love this, excellent work, it looks great, you know, whatever." I'm like, It's so funny. And I'm thinking it's probably because it's not web design and people only dislike things when it encroaches on their skill set. Regardless, a secondary thought was me like the first one was kind of funny. It was the clown. You remember the clown putting on the face paint and what was the overall message? It was something along the lines of like framework can do it all essentially.

Can't do it all. Like it's not it's not production ready. it's not a business tool and he's, you know, whatever. Anyway, and I was like, well, that first one was fine. It's cool, but to do it again and like and it's like it's this is not it's not hard. This is not hard to do like a green screen trashed old van. I mean it's quite but sorry why why should they um why should they use like why should they make their life difficult if they can just prompt it because again it's just it because it's from an industry that you know a lot of them are just very sensitive about the fact that I probably will share it again that that you're putting people out of work and that you're taking um or stealing intellectual property from people who worked hard to be able to train these models and this and that and the other.

So, it's not like so I don't have a huge problem with it. It's just it just doesn't sit right with me when we have been like slated or you know I personally have been attacked because of this very reason you know when I spoke about Nano Banana people were very upset it's like you know it's just steals and like this so it just felt it just didn't sit right and I said this to the founder right I've been chatting to the founder um I think it's the founder or CEO one of the And all I said was just doesn't sit right with me. It's like I'm obviously a big believer of AI and like I accept that things are stolen and in fact I let my stuff be stolen like I don't mind clawed training on my data.

I said yes to all that and whatever. So I don't personally have much of an issue if they're but then we get into the creative aspects. Right. Yeah. creativity exists to um push the boundaries of of technology and think of think of it in a different way. And you know, a friend of mine does AI art and she's able to create things that she couldn't possibly create. You know, it's just impossible. These things don't exist. They It's dream like and all this that and the other. If if AI is just being used to drive a van on a on a onto onto the frame and then someone leans out and says it's free or some dodgy girl is like trying to lure someone in.

Like that's not exactly creative in my eyes. The idea is creative, but you don't need AI to do that. This felt like it was more of like let's just not spend a bunch of money and do something like it's just Yeah. As I say, I'm not overly against it. I conceded with with um I've forgotten his name. In the end, I said, "Look, all I'm jury probably something Yuri old camp." Um, you know, I don't I don't He He thought I undermined the technical the amount of work that goes into it. No doubt the I know the amount of work that goes into this sort of stuff. It's it's it's not that. It's just again, it's just coming from a technical or a creative lens.

from an industry that typically tries to avoid or gets shunned for anything AI. So, you know, um but it looks like his response was ultimately they've tried spending hundreds of thousands of um dollars on production companies and ultimately the outcome isn't very good and it's so delayed that it's no longer relevant. the messages because if there's one thing to praise is that framer responding quite immediately to an idea, right? Or or a theme that's being talked about. So, this was their their way of saying, look, we can we can be more relevant by using AI. I did say maybe you should just build your own hidden house studio. You don't need like especially if that's all you're doing.

Just have a green screen and a camera and hire a few actors. you're putting people in work there and he did respond saying you should see the thing they're building. So I think I think they are making some movements to be able to actually create this sort of stuff. Um but yeah it was interesting. I didn't know how other people felt open I I can see the other side already but I wondered if you had any thoughts about it anyway. Yeah I I'm not opposed to it. I'm I'm opposed to AI creating slop. I'm opposed to. But what is slop? I don't understand that word anymore. Yeah. To me, it's kind of clear. Slop. It's like low quality both in visual but but also in effort.

To me, slop is low effort. Something that doesn't have quality. It doesn't have creativity. It doesn't have effort. That is slop. something that is mass- prodduced uh targeted at people to to just beg for their attention mostly in malicious way almost always in malicious way and it's just doesn't have any human connection I do watch uh some AI generated memes videos that my friends sent to me because the person who made this had the same like you know thought that you know we We are kind of like united by that thought. Um, and people share that idea previously as like very low quality. Do you remember those Facebook memes? Just the stick figures. They existed in that way and now they are like in much sophisticated more sophisticated AI uh versions like video.

It's the same thing. If it can connect us, it's not slop. It could be funny. It's not slop. But if it has none of those things and there are a bunch of content like that, it's slop. Um, low effort. Now I want with that to show another ad. This is by honor uh of a concept phone and this is also AI generated like not 100% but like many shots are AI generated. Like these shots are obviously AI generated and you can see artifacts uh happening. This is AI generated. So this also honestly didn't feel good. This feel this felt like you know a big company just putting out something just for attention and there is no intentionality or like realness into it.

It's just kind of like yeah it's not as bad. It's not as bad as the other type of slot slop that I'm talking about because it you know okay communicating an idea. Um, but it is AI generated. It is AI generated and doesn't feel really good. Apparently, Samsung did the same, but I couldn't find uh the source. I just know it from uh the Friday checkout, one of my favorite YouTube uh uh channels. By the way, this is an ad by Samsung and it's AI generated. And it seems like there is no intentionality. It's just like, okay, an alien giving you a rose, whatever. It's Yeah. Yeah. Kind of. It's This is like the definition of slop for me.

Like what what the hell is this trying to say? With the other one, maybe. Okay. At least I have this concept phone. Now, with framer, I don't have an issue with the video using AI at all. The only issue I have with that video is that it's not really it's technically correct. It's technically yes it's free to use for design but actually like in reality frameware is not not free. It's also very expensive. It's just that's why do you need why do you need AI to communicate that message? You need any tool like why at least at least with honor they they're showing something what you you expect them to build a concept phone like this and have it work mechanically and this and that like the argument is that by the way I'm not all I'm yeah I I know what you're trying to say to me it's just use of tools so you could make the same argument uh why do you use web flow why don't you handcode it uh in HTML because you are putting out putting uh people out of work, people who would handcode with HTML.

Now they they don't do that anymore. We simple website, you just use a tool or you completely AI generated. I don't have an issue with you know the tool being updated and people have to keep it's the same with why did you use Nano Banana to Photoshop that pictures of you putting your a banana costume? You could you could go on Amazon and buy an Well, no, because typic because I was I couldn't go on Amazon and buy a banana costume to demonstrate the power of an AI but you get my point, right? I don't have an issue with the tool. I have an issue with the sloppiness of the quality. Okay. Well, I mean, funny enough, because Yuri uh even said like it's it's wild like when we talk about no code tools and this and that and the other.

And I I I said to him, yeah, it's it's hypocritical, isn't it? That uh we are all leveraging a level of of extra abstraction that at one point has put someone out of work. Whether it's again we talk about calculator, whether we talk about farming, whether we talk about no code tools, all this. So it is hypocritical and I didn't send this to him because I just like I deleted it not because it wasn't, you know, because it was offensive or anything like that, but I did say I I said that I think everyone just has this invisible line that, you know, no one can agree on. Well, some people might be able to agree on it, but we're all operating at different light levels on this line of what is acceptable or what is slop.

Like, it's a semantic thing that we're we're never all going to agree on. So, it's fine to disagree. It's fine to observe. And I I love hearing your side. I love I love hearing Yuri's side. It it's interesting. I'm not going to I'm not going to try and battle or try and change your mind. All I'm going to do is present my case as best as I can because I believe that I'm right. You believe that you're right. Nothing to get upset over or anything like that. And I I was happy to again concede the argument. I didn't want to keep on arguing. I presented my case and mostly just wanted to again draw it back to this idea that again designers specifically like will get upset Photoshop artists will get upset that you're using AI when you could have just hired someone especially a company I know I know framer aren't as big as they you know as big as one might uh think but you know I feel like they could probably hire some people to do what they achieved in AI but anyway Whatever it is what it is.

I Yeah, I I just thought it would be nice if they were a bit more creative with the use of AI than just having a car drive off on the screen and you know and someone dressed up as a hillbilly or whatever it is. You know, there much more interesting ways you could push AI. Um but it still looks good. You know, they you saw a two and um it probably cost them I don't know because obviously it took a few hours. How many tries? Yeah, how many tries they obviously, you know, have multiple versions and they edit them and they see which one is better. So, there is quite some work uh behind it.

I I do find the idea of the video pretty funny. Yeah, they're always free. Yeah, Andy also I think is the is the guy probably puts it he probably plays around with it and goes to jury and says, "Hey, this is what I built." And they're like, "Cool, let's use it." Um, no idea. But yeah, I think it's it's Andy guy who's the Yeah. Hype videos for framer. Yeah. You know. Yeah. So anyway, so should we move on? Um, we have like three other things to talk about uh quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's just real quick this hilarious video of someone. You should share your screen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I am. So somebody generated an AI lawyer and brought it in court like actually trying to play it to to defend him.

So let let's see. Let's uh refresh. May it please the court. I come here today a humble pro before a panel of five distinguished justices. Is this Hold on. Is that council for the case? This is defendant. I generated that. I'm sorry. I generated that. I generated that. That is not a real It's a new sentence. I generated that. Okay. It would have been nice to know that when you made your application. You did not tell me that, sir. I received the application. And you have appeared before this court and been able to testify verbally in the past. You have gone to my clerk's office and held verbal conversations with our staff for over 30 minutes.

Okay. I don't appreciate being misled. So either you are suffering from an ailment that prevents you from being able to articulate or you don't. You are not going to use this courtroom as a launch for your business, sir. So if you are able to to shut that off shut if you want to have oral arguments you can stand up and get it. Oh god I would like to hear the AI argument. So can I come here today muted. So yeah uh may you can check also the comments a few comments. The comments were really funny. Uh have you seen suits? Yes. like there. Yeah, I wish I wish the guy would use one of their characters for the This was Why did they put it back up?

It's like Yeah, the court ain't pleased. The Yeah, the court ain't pleased. That's funny. I guess not. Uh yeah. Yeah, it it was really funny. Like what people will do with with AI, it will be crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, uh shall I share my screen with the next one? Yeah, if you share your screen with the next one is also fine. So, the next Web Flow update is huge and I'm here for it. It's the real-time collaboration that we've been waiting for it for quite some time. Uh they're rolling it out over the next few weeks that I'm not really happy about that. I wish I had access yesterday. Uh but yeah, you can like work in web flow with multiple developers doing development.

I' I've tried this actually in the beta and it's magical. I tried it with uh this real can you talk to? Yes. Talk to people. No, no, you don't talk to people. No, not like that. Yeah. Yeah. This is this is not real. So what we do this in Discord by the way. So what we did just we normally work in discord and um somebody was making a class and somebody else was duplicating an element and somebody else was like using those classes and it all worked. It was all working on the same page on the same element on like similar elements on different pages. It worked there. There are a few edge cases. There are things that don't work.

for example, not like you can't uh work on an animation at the same time with your teammate, which kind of also makes sense like who is going to control what, but they can be building the elements and you can be animating them. Somebody could be building the CMS uh not I'm not talking about like editing the CMS content like literally the CMS collections and the things that is needed for that. Somebody could be coding for whatever that is needed for there and you know somebody else like styling it and that is so good. So good. We really need this or working on multiple pages. We had we so two years ago we finished a project in nine days with 14 pages.

14 pages in nine days. That was crazy. And the way we did it, we had one source of truth and then one person was working on that source of truth and merging and three other people. So four people in total, three other people we were making like sections essentially. We were making sections looking at this the source of truth and be like okay we use these classes and then we would allow him to copy paste them and he would sync the classes and that way we 14 pages in nine days that's not but now it's we can do the same thing probably in a week uh in a much you know less with with much less hassle and that it's really nice.

Yeah, it's been a long time coming. Like I'm surprised it took so long. I mean, yes, I don't think any other tool has really done this though. Have they? Well, framer has real time collaboration. Okay. And Figma. And Figma. Well, with Figma, I assume it's much easier. I think because it's um in Figma, you don't have classes. You don't have CSS to sync. like everything is named like group 5,2,00 something like this you know uh in web flow the cleanness of the code uh makes it difficult even in in framer you don't have classes it's all managed by react generated classes so yeah web flow being clean and scalable made it hard for themselves to build that but I'm happy that it's here now yeah well will be stream will be in the next few days.

Web flow, if you're watching this, please give me access. I had access. I had give me access. All you do for everything that you do for them and they won't give you access. No, actually I actually I if I message I don't know if the roll out will work for that because I could I am in some beta sometimes but yeah, I don't know if I could ask them for that now. uh they are programmatically rolling it out. Anyway, we can go to the next uh piece of content that the the last thing that we want to talk about and that is website of the week. So, every week a website that I believe uh like makes the the news or people talk about it or it's just good.

Maybe we can show it. And this is one of them made by uh off-brand like it's a web flow agency. They are super creative and talented. And the guy behind u this is also important like the the guy behind these effects and animation um Fedrico. Uh so he also has like a GitHub like a really nice GitHub that I started like follow and see like what I can learn from him. But yeah, he does this magic. Now type disco just on your keyboard type disco by the way. Yes, it is. It is amazing. Wow. It's like um Darth Punk. Yeah, it's really cool. So, if you scroll down, you see like So, that's the problem with these websites.

There's no indication to scroll down. I would never have scrolled down. No, I don't know. You would scroll down. You like people scroll down on websites. No, no, no. That's the That's a big UX boo that is, I reckon. I would never. Anyway, well, these are like creative websites. Anyway, so if you scroll down, you get uh a WebGL calendar of sorts. It's It's quite impressive how smooth everything feels like. It's really performant. I don't like the scroll hijacking. I've never liked scroll hijacking. These are the um helmets are well cool. Really cool. I don't know what the who what what is this like Lando? Is he a driver? I I have no idea. Very cool.

I should know better for somebody who likes go-kart. Yeah, this is from the maiden with GAP library. At least that like I recognize the the pattern. I'm not sure if they use that. Where is that calendar? So if you go up a little bit um a bit up maybe here like below the helmets. Well these are dates on them. Visit of view on track. Yeah click that maybe what what that button if you scroll down. H that is also super cool. You see, did you see that image effect? Yeah, this is like super nice also like the how it came to be. A lot of um a lot of painstaking staking hours would have gone into Yes.

Yeah. I mean like you know you look at that. It's really nice. And if you scroll even further I I I really want to see that. Yeah. that I think you you showed it. It was somewhere maybe below. No, maybe below that one. Yeah. And you can go you can navigate this. Can you like and these are like HTML elements I believe because you can select them. Uh but this is like a slider. Can you go to the next slide? H yeah. You see? Ah, this this is so so freaking smooth. Yeah, very cool. Yeah, super cool website. And Fedrico, he's he's the man. He's just like insane. He's crazy. Nice. Yeah. cool website. Um, this is built on web flow and obviously there are some 3D with 3JS and WebGL and they are using RIVE.

So some of the animations I don't know which ones specifically but there are some RIVE animations but it's easy if you want to go and like check it you can um you can find out which ones are made with Rive. Yeah. That's very cool. Yeah. Nice. Is that it? Yeah. Well, that's all we have time for this week. Make sure to follow us on Instagram, YouTube, Commandai Show, and join us next week for all the news in AI design and dev. I've been Samuel and I'm Kabarza. Keep on vibing. Peace out.