#70 Tesla Roadster, Muse Wonder, Figma Extension, Salesforce SI, Software is Dead
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About This Episode
This week, Sam and Kvar delve into the highly anticipated Tesla Roadster and its questionable flying capabilities, alongside Salesforce's widely criticised AI-generated logo. They also discuss Meta's powerful new Muse Wonder models, the ongoing debate around "Software is Dead", and Anthropic's bespoke version control system. Plus, a look at Figma's new code layers and X's bundled subscription offerings.
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Welcome. Cabaza will be here in just one moment. And I'm just doing some final checks. Uh get this thumbnail uploaded, which I hope was automatically done through the magic of automation. Or we 16th. So no it did not automation did not work. Oh hello there we are live. Okay so let's see if I have my camera set up actually. Let me fix that. Oh I can't hear you. I'm speaking to you. I'm live. I'm speaking to you but they can't hear you because you're in the green room. Um, I'm just uploading the thumbnail to YouTube, which is the 16th of October. God damn it, it's nearly Christmas. It's basically nearly Christmas. Um, switch You in? You out? Oh, he's in. He's arrived. Hello there. Hello. Hello. You can hear me. Okay. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I can hear you. Where did that save to? Figma. Oh, here it is. Oh, man. Um, like last second I got a call, so I hopped on that. Um, so hopped hopped on a call. I hopped on a call like Well, let's actually call it I I flew I can fly. Oh, yes. Are you referring to the flying part? the test. Are we getting oursel in trouble calling hopping flying? I mean, I don't know. Vice versa. I prefer kick flip to be honest myself. I prefer kick. Well, well, technically it is a kick flip, but yeah. Is flying, you're the English man, you know, you you speak it's your mother tongue. Is flying the overarching word that can be describing even hopping? Is hopping flying? No. Cuz hopping would would um assume that you go up and down in like one motion like there's no there's no anti-gravity involved. It's just a boon, you know, whereas flying is I guess propelled and prolonged. Uh, you know, travel, I think. No, I know. I know. I'm the English man. I know. I know. Right. Where's my two sex? I need to go get my little Let me also turn on the light. Yeah. Um, some more ambient light and then Hello there. Also, I'm going to turn on my walking pad, you know, because we want to be healthy and all that. Is this your new Is this your new um what do you call it? Like thing. Is this your new thing? Yeah, I do have new things all the time. My hat is my thing or this is my thing. It's my stick. They call that a stick. Is your stickick walking? I think so. I think so. Yeah, the walking live. Okay, so we are live all on Instagram as well. I always forget that I have to click that separately. I mean the the it's not necessarily article worthy, but should we just like just talk about this [ __ ] Roadster event? I don't know. Should we start with that? Yeah, I have a bunch of assets I want to show to assets. Well, tweets, but yeah, I mean, if you have been living under a rock, then you might not have seen, but basically Tesla built a flying freaking car and it they did this demo. Let's try and see if we can time it. So, they're chatting, chatting, chatting. And here we go. Let's just watch it. This is just insane. Oh, tense. And they did this because they wanted to prove it was an AI or SI. [ __ ] that up. This was insane. When I saw this, I was like, "No, absolutely crazy." Absolutely crazy. And the actual tech behind it is even more crazy. I mean, I don't know what we're going to get done for copyright, but Oh, [ __ ] There we go. There we go. Look at that. Yeah. Yeah. It's like Back to the Future. Exactly. Because of the look also. It is completely Back to the Future. And then they did another trick which I thought was maybe not actually. No, maybe it wasn't more impressive. But there was this then it I have so many questions. I don't want to be skeptical. I'm not like look this is beyond impressive. Watch. Oh man, it flipped almost cartoonish. It is that is that is exactly it. And then one final thing is this can go n to 60 and under a second. And the way it does it uh I wonder if we can find it. Um I think it's here. We're going to have actually a follow on uh demo. Not actually. Uh that's uh uh let's find it real quick. Here we go. No, not that one. I'm waiting for it. This it is. like insane. And then you see an overhead view in just a second. This is this is a real car and we'll get into it. This is a real car. They do a slow-mo from the top down. I want to point something out. Well, I said less than one second there. I want to see Oh. Oh, no. They do it again, don't they? That was a pre-recording and they just we didn't have a whole So, you know what it does? It reaches these these these things here, these little lines, the the the break in the thrust. That's it breaking the sound barrier. So, it's breaking the sound barrier. So, I don't know the science behind it, but they call these like diamonds or something like that. That's how hard this thing is blowing. Oh yeah. Blowing I guess you know. Yeah. So imagine what it does to your balls. I know. That's what I'm worried. That's what I'm worried about because by the way, this is a production car. As far as Elon Musk's mouth takes him, this is going to be a production car that they're going to make in 2028. And um you can buy the normal performance car. So that's the base model. I think that starts at quarter of a million. Um yeah. And then you get the thruster one as a as an addition. And I think that's what we just saw there with the jets behind it. And then you get the full fly one which is invite only. That's invite only. So yeah. Um but all that to say the thrusters they're not they don't require any fuel. This is what's crazy. They don't require any fuel. They suck air into them and you they just they just run off air which is crazy. And the upside down thing is like a suction device that sucks it up. That's why it was able to kind of do that thing. So that's the technology. But [ __ ] bonkers, man. Crazy. Yeah. So this is what we know. And I hate that I'm now taking the skeptical. Um Okay. Why Why am I lagging? Am I lagging for you? Uh no. I don't think you are. Go on. Keep keep talking. Okay. I I thought I was lagging. So I hate that I'm taking taking that skeptical role. But I have I have just questions. Okay, I'm not hating the technology. I I'm actually beyond excited, but I have just so so many questions. First of all, for the air, um, and is it like pure air or is it taking the nitrogen out of the air and it's like high pressure nitrogen? I'm not sure because I I'm pretty sure the thrusters don't work based on just mixed air. The air that we have, I think these are specific amount of like specific gas. Again, not a riet scientist, but that's just the general thing that I that I have heard. So, so I'm guessing how I'm interpreting that is that there's some sort of catalyst or some sort of substance in these rockets, these jets that react with the air that gets brought in is is kind of what and then that and that reacts and creates nitrogen. I mean, the answer, the short answer is yeah, I don't know. I don't know. But, um, I did hear twice that it's it's pulled in from the air. Yeah. So, let me I had a um an alternative intro. I'll go through that with a few memes. Okay. And then in the edit, you you stitch whatever you stitch. Okay. Does that make sense? Um, by the way, this was never meant to be like I never intended on this being anything more than just a discussion before the before the show, but like Yeah, we can we can see how it turns out. We We can see how it turns out. Yeah. All right. So, this was a crazy week for cars. Porsche just came with Mission S and it looks bonkers and all the comments are this. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's it's insane that this Porsche looking so good and everybody obviously rightfully talking about what's beyond that much more insane which is this Tesla that can fly. I love this one. This is my favorite meme. Come on, do something to the Porsche because you know it can't fly. It can't hop. What is it uh called? It it can't jump. It's you know boring. Is it sub one second 0 to 100? I don't think so. And or this one. What's that? But where where you inverted all the I I I I just know it from the memes or this one. Porsche coming out with the car and the Tesla. This is such a bad day to uh to go to release a new Porsche. And this one, this is an interesting one. This is how this Tesla I think is inspired by. It's inspired by Lamborghini but also the SR is it called SR71 Lockit Martin if I'm not uh mistaken. Yeah. They say it was inspired by this. Honestly, I don't know. Like I don't see a lot of re I resemblance. I know that Elon loves this uh this airplane. That's a bit of a stretch that one. It's his favorite. By the way, this is not a bomber or something. It's just like going over countries and just to gather information. It was like one of the craziest features of engineering uh we've ever done. Like it's absolutely crazy this one. Anyway, maybe they are just mentioning it because Elon loves it. But let's actually, you know, let's let's go to Tesla and buy one and and buy one cuz you pre-order it. I think it's I think it's 50 grand you pre-order it for. No, that it used to be 50 grand. The the old one. So, right now you can go to the tesla.com on the vehicle list. You see the images. By the way, it looks really I like the looks of it. Okay. It's a I said I Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's Lamborghini. It's like Yeah. But Lamborghinis, no hate to Lamborghini, but they look to me I've seen also Lamborghinis in real life like from others like parks and like looked at it and it looks always a bit a bit too much for me. It's a bit just too much. But my point my point is is that the Cybert truck was way out there. This one has been drawn in a little bit and it resembles something that we're more familiar with so people like it more. Exactly. That's my point that it's not as much like angled like Lamborghini. Lamborghini. It's not like a copy of Porsche. It's also not also kind of like the old Roadster kind of like I I see resemblance of these cars. So the designs of it, I love it. H Yeah. I mean, look at this. This is insane. Anyway, you can actually reserve this, but here's where we see some information about um like the flying part of it. So, if you go to reserve now, now you see three options. There is the performance which doesn't have the the thrusters at the back either. It seems like this is road ready with steering for uh seating for two. Let me actually zoom in. Um includes active arrow and a multi- mode suction system. I don't know what active arrow is. Is Oh, no. I know. I know. I'm sorry. It's the the back thing. Yeah, that's the active arrow. Active arrow can be all over the car, by the way. But that's that's probably what this one's referring to. Yeah, it's a it's a really cool looking uh arrow as well. Like the the back tail, it comes up, but it doesn't just comes up. It it kind of like gets away from the car and comes up. It's kind of like distances. It's really cool looking. Anyway, so the performance version is quite normal. It's a normal roadster. Then you have function thing though. But we we should talk about the suction thing because what that's doing is it's the I don't know whether it's the same level of suction that allowed the other one to go upside down. So whether this one can go upside down or not, I'm not sure. However, the suction means it can take corners up to like something like 2G. So you can turn a corner and it would literally just suck down to the road, allowing you to be like going so fast and take a really sharp turn against your eyeballs are basically. Yeah, your eyeballs, your stomach, you will actually like feel all that G in your body because also like if you go sideways, I I man, that's going to be like crazyatic as well. Yes. Uh and and you have the steer by wire, which is also really cool. Yeah. Um then you have the thrust version which is performance pl plus plus plus only the back thrusters to give you like this extremely like really fast um start uh basically jump start. I I'm not sure if this one is going to hit the sub uh 1 second but it probably is. It's probably this one. And this one is still a two-seater, but then you have the rocket one, which is invite only. You cannot even get it. And this one says air ready with seating for one. That's interesting. Didn't know that. Yeah. Includes performance and thrust plus a full flight system. That might be a stretch to call it a full flight system, but a full Yeah. Jumping, flipping system, whatever. Um, you pay 5,000. Uh, it's fully refundable. Refundable. But then due within 10 days, I'm not sure. 10 days of what? Like after Mhm. Today you are due 250,000. Well, 245,000. Basically, it's quarter of a million to lock it down. No, million. Yeah. And we don't know, but that's the thrust version. That's the thrust version, not the full rocket system. And we don't know if this is the final price. That's the thing. I'm I'm not really sure if if it's when it's ready, if it's ready, if it if they will ship it to you for this amount of money. And I'm not sure. Yeah. And well, what does it say below it? Um, reservations are not final until payment is received. Reservations subject to cancellation. If payment is not completed within 10 days, um, refunds for modifications will not be issued. Interesting. Um, and there there are like roadster reservation agreements. I haven't read it, but it's very interesting because like this one I read due to limited availability the thrust variant you can get only one of it and if if they spot you by trying to reserve two with the same payment system or the same name or the same address they will cancel it. So they just don't want you to try like in 10 different ways to get your hands on this. Before we get into the absurdity of all of this, how much is the performance version? Um, I'm pretty sure it's 50. It's the same. Oh. Oh, no. It's Yeah, you're right. That's what I was saying. It was 50. Yeah. So, yeah, that car is not going to be 50. Yeah, that car will not be 50 grand at launch, which makes you think that the quarter of a million is not the final price cuz a model Tesla Y is like 30 40 grand, right? This one is not going to be 50 grand. So, yeah, obviously. Yeah. Yes, you're completely right. Um, and the rocket one, we have no idea how much it cost. Now, for the questions, uh, we we saw what they did. Well, not this one, this one. Um, where were we actually here? We saw how they went up and how it landed and it that was crazy. That was absolutely crazy how it landed. Uh maybe this one I'm not sure as you said I'm not sure maybe this one is even more crazy in a way. So what is really crazy it it goes slow in both cases. It's not like full speed. It's not even like going 20 miles or anything. It's going like basically at like the absolute minimum and all the sudden all of the sudden it jumps or like the the the thrusters it seems like they don't they didn't show it at speed, right? And I'm asking like what is the G that you get here? Is that the one that they mentioned the 2G that you get if you jump just like that? I mean, look at the speed. I think the thrust version is 2G. I mean, what happens to you and your balls when this happens? Like, it's all of a sudden, let's be let's be if we're going to get into that, let's be clear, right? Like, laws aside, I know Elon Musk is buddy buddy with Elon within with Donald Trump. Like, law like you would not be able to use this on the the road, right? this would be private land only to do this for a start. Um secondly like yeah like people are people go through training to be able to cope with the sort of G forces that that uh space flight and or and even even go-karting and race car driving, right? You go through because I wanted to say Yeah. Yeah. I want to say like go-karting it's it's crazy. Like if you've done it, you know it it absolutely wrecks your stomach. So if you put down a deposit or put money down, they will know they will have to go through some sort of either training or only able to sell it to people who have done this sort of training because the sort of G-forces that would pull are just insane. Like it's it's just pointless. So So let's say the G-force is not a problem. Let's talk about where you could theoretically do this. And what is nobody I I'm not seeing anybody talking about this. I've seen some videos on Instagram from people who were there and filmed it. This thing is absolutely loud. It's the loudest thing you can have. There's a thing in the stream where they you can hear how loud it is and they stop talking to let it sort it. Yeah. Whatever. So that's our only indication. Yeah. This is This is loud. So if you think like in your neighborhood you're going to do this, this is pretty much like having a mini rocket. This is literally a mini rocket. It's not street legal. It's not going to be street legal. The loudness isn't going to be insane how this reacts with whatever road that there is. like if it's asphalt or gravel or whatever, like it's going to shoot gravel uh faster than bullet at at a round. So, there are so many things that people are not talking about. And again, I'm not saying this as hating the technology or anything. I'm really excited about it, but uh and I would if if I would have the money and I could get my hand on it, I would absolutely do. No question asked. But I'm just saying like it's not something that I would spin in my, you know, backyard or like on my street and do it. It's a new level of lies from Elon Musk, but no doubt an impressive and crazy. Like I've honestly I've just completely disregarded any sort of purchasing of anything above the pro performance model really to be honest. Like this is not going to be street legal. Even the performance model isn't going to be street legal because it doesn't have wing mirrors. So, it needs wing mirrors for a start. So, there's they're going to have to do they're going to have to go through changes to make this street legal without anything, you know, and as the comments are pointing out, uh even the the the normal version would be nice as well. Like, yeah, I I fully agree like the this the suction for the sharp corners, it's going to give you the kick that you like a a racing car will give you. kind of like it's going to be crazy the the the the sharp corners that you can do. So, yeah, you remind me. I don't know whether that's going to be street legal even, you know. We we've never seen anything like that before on a street car. I live close to uh Nuremberg and it would be cool to have that. Yeah, I'm like 20 minutes away from Nuremberg. Would be cool to, you know, the Nuremberg uh thing is quite famous. Um, yeah, the because of the sharp corner. So maybe maybe one day uh there will be a Tesla Roadster that you can kind of like rent or try there. But yeah, there's so many more questions. But yeah, it's it's it's just really cool. It's not realistic. They said 2028. Let's see. because it in the past 10 years, every few years, they've been showing us a new Roadster and they've been saying like it's going to be worth worth it uh when it comes out and it never comes out. And I don't want to say it's never going to come out because you know it's crazy. Sometimes he he actually he actually sometimes does it like what he did with the Cybert truck, right? Yeah. And something we did we did forget me to mention this is uh completely different from the original Cybert truck that people put money down for that they promised. The original roadster was old school Porsche vibes. You know it's uh well maybe not old school Porsche vibes but it's definitely more of a traditional car vibes. Definitely no flight mode. Um and then this got released. So it'll be interesting to see what the the original roadster orders the people who put money down for that what they're about to receive. So yeah, I mean more more questions more questions than answers. One more question is like what combination of buttons do you push that like what is the system that because like here we have perfect condition but like what what is the system that kind of like thinks of what is the landing spot? Is it going to be like a How does it know where it lands? Like it doesn't I honestly I honestly think it's a self It's like a cat, right? So it selfrectifies. So you've got a boost mode that takes you up and the moment you let go it will just like self-rectify. I don't you're never going to get to flip. Like no one's no one with any normal driver's license is going to get a flip mode. So, you might be able to boost and then then flip, but then you sent it into auto, you know, writing mode and then it just lands whatever. Like when it drove upside down, it just it just landed itself. Um, so yeah, again, questions and answers. The last meme I want to show. Jesus Christ. Yeah, traffic is a bit heavy in the Zaxis today. This is just so good. I love the internet, man. Like, this is why flying cars, this is why flying cars will never be a thing because it would just be absolute chaos unless they can follow a locked route, you know? Um, like if you've flown a drone, you know how freaking loud a drone is. Just imagine order of magnitude louder than that. It's Yeah. Um, and I don't know, maybe some people think that thrusters are not as loud as uh, proper perpo. How how do you pronounce it? Propellers. Propellers. Propellers. Yeah, I can't say. Not my first language. I need to try that. Um, anyway, I don't think they are like thrusters are probably way uh, louder. I should check that, but I that that would be kind of like my guess. Well, there we go. Um, more news. More news is, um, I [ __ ] up on the iPhone Duo. I I had it all set up that I could just click yes and go. And I'm I've been so busy today with like 20 things pulling me in all these different directions. I looked at my camera. I was like, [ __ ] And I didn't even get a notification. I don't know why I didn't get notified on my freaking thing. It's it always feels like it's the most important things you don't get notified for because obviously this is life and death, you know. Um I was like [ __ ] it's like half half an hour into the stream or into the launch. So I grabbed my phone and I fumble my fumbled through it. I I I think it was even sooner than when I first opened my phone because I had to deal with an address cuz the dates changed. Like I would I would be at this address here when it launches when it actually delivers. But because my d my thing changes, I need to change my address. Long story short, it's booked. It's in, but my delivery date is between uh 16th and the 21st of December. So, I'm gutted. I saw I saw your tweet. Yeah. More gutted that um Wow. Yeah. I mean, I don't mind waiting, but it's just like annoying that I'm moving. I'm going to be moving around and stuff. I don't even know where I'm going to be living at that time. So, I've just delivered it a neutral address. So, how is it you decided to get it? Get the Pro? Cuz I don't need the Pro. Like, I'm happy with my I'm happy with my phone. Oh, so you keep that one as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because you know there's a new phone handoff feature that they've released. So, you can have two phones that share the same phone number and data plan and all the rest of it. just it just automatically whatever phone you pick up is the now the phone that's primary you know um we have something similar in Germany but it depends on the um service carrier you have no no no no no this is an Apple just Apple one okay and is it like globally um available I I not going to I'm not going to even answer for the EU but I'm going to say probably yes But I don't know. You have to check. You have to check. Okay. I can't imagine why. I guess they might have, I don't know, anti-competitive laws or something stupid that the EU will come up with, but um maybe we just even have a look like it's uh is Apple's phone handoff feature available in the EU and is it available now? Let's have a look. Yes, iPhone handoff is available in the EU right now. It does say it does say it's actually available in Germany right now, but it's not available in the UK and it does matter on the carrier. So, you're right. It doesn't It does matter on the carrier, which is stupid, which is which is a bit ridiculous to be honest. So, yeah, in the UK it's not available yet. Interesting. E says coming soon. So, let's let's see. Damn it. I was hoping to um I was hoping to just get on and just use the phone, but I might have to do a SIM swap for a little bit just to do a little test. Anyway, call your carrier. They might be able to give you a new SIM card and like sometimes they do this. In my case, they do, but it costs like I believe it costs like five extra euros a month or just the oneoff. No, a month. They they are they are the worst, you know. you you know they like internet providers are the worst actually. So um asking if the live is also on YouTube. Yes, please join us on YouTube. It's much better. I promise it's worth it. Like on Instagram it is just kind of like I want I want us to go also on Instagram to tell you guys to join on YouTube for a better experience. H speaking of which, if you're on it, like, subscribe, and give us a hype. Yes. Is that what you're going to say? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know whether the people are giving us hype and I don't know what we receive, you know, in in whatever, but we get hyped. We I we get buzzed. uh we there's 10% more energy goes into the stream if you hype this and we'll we'll then receive it through our earphones into our brains and we will then be hyped. But um yeah, I got the I got the Starlight. I got the white one and two interesting. I think that's the that's the right I don't know, man. I don't know. I just I do like the look of the other one and it would match this more, but like I think it would just this one is just like chipped and whatever and it just doesn't last, you know, whereas the Starite would at least cover up the dents a bit better. So yeah, I might want to also swap my iPhone. Uh some people ask me like why would I do it like the battery even if like all the other improvements are negligible and tiny the battery you get a new battery. So if you are not necessarily paying too much extra for the new one because I can sell resell this for a really good like amount of money and getting the new one doesn't really cost me much. it just like prolongs my contract. So, I'm not paying more at the moment. I will just pay more in the future. Um, anyway, so I I know it's kind of like I'm technically going to pay more in the future, but the battery is worth it because now the battery is at 90%, 91%. And that's why I was I'm just going to go on a I'm I'm going li and say you don't have battery saving mode on. You don't you just charge it 100% and let it drop to zero. I do. No, I do actually. I do try to And your battery is at 90%. After a year. I I take videos a lot. This Okay. This this phone, fair enough. But this phone is iPhone 15 Pro. It's coming up to four years old now. Maybe it is already four years old. Never replace the battery. My battery health is at 84%. Mine is at 90%. What is your cycle count? 996. 996. That's insane. I have almost 400. So, pretty much 398. So, 400. It says it's at normal capacity, but this definitely isn't a normal capacity. I did watch a phone of I did watch a video of someone who who bought this phone and hated it because the titanium actually is terrible for thermal conductivity. Which one do you have? 15. It was the worst. So I have the new iPhone since 13 Pro Max. All of them Pro Max and 15 was the worst for um for heating. It would get heated so bad. I had multiple many shutdowns in my car because inside of the car gets really hot and I live in Germany. I mean it's Europe. It's kind of like crazy. It's central Europe and your phone shuts down because of overheating. That's crazy. It's insane. Yeah. Do you know what I was thinking slightly off topic is like you know when we we spoke about um the Oh, we do need to talk about the fact that all of the videos last week were edited by AI. We can talk about that. Yeah. But the where we spoke about like the um Tesla super intelligence and it would be Tesla super intelligent pro max whatever there's a word for this by the way where you keep on just increasing and increasing there is actually a word for it a ladder of exaggeration I don't know something like that something like that point is I'm waiting for them I mean they should do this already like all this is is like I think when they first released the pro max it had extra things like I had an extra camera or I had an extra this or that cuz you only for this one. This is now no different to the smaller version. So, I think they need to kill the Max. I think it should just be the iPhone and the iPhone Pro. Do you know what I mean? And I think that would clean things up so much if they just remove the Pro Max. There's no need for it. Yeah. Um doesn't tell you anything you need to know about what phone you have. You just have the Pro or you just have the normal version. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I'm that's the sort of boring [ __ ] I think about when I'm alone that so that keeps you that keeps me that yeah that keeps you actually not um exaggeration maybe it's escalation ladder so they are trying to escalate or exaggerate either one of AI we're here we're here ask AI what's it called when things like add pro max ultra special like to the end product names and things like that. I think there's a word for it. Let's see what that says. I'm using my voice obviously to type this stuff out. So, it's not the most useful term is product name modifiers. No naming hierarchy. No, no, it's not. No, you need to give it a bit more context. Think about unnecessar that doesn't ring a bell, but pleon redundant words term like ultra max premium plus. Yeah. By the way, we're not trying to to say that they are trying to add redundant words, you know, they are not going to necessarily do pro- ultra max. No. Um, what I was trying to say, they are trying to exaggerate more like Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, artificial intelligence and then AGI. that once AGI is kind of like it it was said enough and the society is desentized to it and they people don't you know react to it anymore they they try a new some dopamine rush we need we need to inject more dopamine exactly to the market I don't know whether we we'll think we'll go over it in a bit in a tweet later it will be in a tweet uh we'll go over it in sec an article in a sec. But yeah, SpaceX are now super intelligent as well. But during the twi during the Tesla stream, Musk said the uh the forbidden word. He actually called it AI. Like he said, "We wanted to do this because we want to prove it's not AI or or SI." He sort of corrected himself. Quite funny. Um but yeah, speaking of AI, I guess we could we could use that as a segue to pretty much anything. Yeah. So, every single video that we released last week was edited by AI. And I have to say, I'm so impressed. Like the the initial prompt I gave the videos was quite detailed because and I think here's the thing is I've been editing these videos from the get-go. So I know how to instruct if I was to hire an editor, I know how to instruct them on what we want. We want this ending. We want the logo here. We want, you know, we want to do this shot when someone's speaking and this shot when we're both speaking or whatever. Uh, so I was able to kind of put all of that nuance into the original prompt and then so, uh, it was inside of a remotion project. Opus 5.5 went to town and half an hour later, so it didn't take that long. Half an hour later had all of the clips lined up for me. They weren't quite there in terms of the editing, but also mostly there in terms of the editing, but there were a couple of things I left off in the initial prompt, and it just took another prompt for them to really knen up. And I think they look really good. And that's going to and if I can automate that, that's going to save so much time. and and and the next step is to be able to then release shorts because that's the one thing we I've just not had the time to do is release short versions of these clips. So, we've already got the, you know, the the um captioning, you know, we've already got the style of captioning that we can we can use that that matches our style. So, all of that's still in there and and and I've made all this into a skill, by the way. So, it just reads from the skill. But I'm excited just to yeah take this now a step further that the first result should be a really good result and then the next prompt should be just refining the little bits and bobs and then saying all that is I've just I've been editing my own YouTube videos with AI and what that because it's a slight because I record things slightly differently you know this is just one linear stream because I record them slightly differently from my YouTube there's multiple angles and screen shar chairs and this and that and it needs to be done and titles and stuff like that. Um, I mean, we could do that for this show, but it's taught me that I sort of need to record my videos in a certain way and that when when it's when it's mostly done and then you're just nitpicking, you can actually export the edit as a Final Cut project. So then I can just bring it into Final Cut or probably Da Vinci or Premier depending on your editing tool of choice. I can then bring it into Final Cut and then make the little little trims here or there which is really good. Um rather than rather than nitpicking through AI which can then affect something else in the video, I just go in and just finish the job. So, it's it's not it's not a set it and forget it task, but it's definitely like a really really good time saver and it means just we can make more videos at the end of the day because we had to cut down the amount of videos we produce because it was just taking up all my time, you know. Yeah, I I'm actually really glad to hear that because that makes me think I should also get back at making videos for my channel because I started making videos uh on Instagram. I've been saying that I will and now I have I finally have. In the past two, three weeks I've been like regularly posting and things are picking up. Uh but for my Instagram, I'm not doing any AI video editing or anything like that. I'm just doing it, raw dugging it, but also not much editing. But I also made a video with Claude. I don't know if if I have ah I did show that. We we went over it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's really impressive that just to say, yeah, AI can actually do edit video. It it and as with everything, you know, if you're if you if you're proud of the thing that you're doing, in this case, editing, it does take it took it's taken me and I'm probably still not done, by the way, but it's taken me about 3 days of constantly tweaking. And my friend asked me like, "Do you think it saves you much time?" And given that there's titles and animations, I absolutely think there's much there's more time. But the the I mean this is for my own personal videos to be honest, but um it once you've once you've paid those once you've paid that effort and time and energy into figuring it out, it's then pays dividends in just doing it from that point onwards. And yes, it's incredible. So yeah, go watch the videos or or I'll probably the next week will be interesting because this will be a refinement of that. I'd definitely spent less time doing this next week, but let us know what what you think because I think they're I think they're great. The most important thing is that I think it captures the nuance and it bring and it understands the most controversial or interesting point in the video and puts that in the intro. Whereas before I would just naturally just do the intros that we say on the stream, whereas sometimes we say more provocative things later on in the video and it picks up on that. Yeah. I mean it reads the um the transcript, right? And yeah, should be able Yeah. Anyway, news your end. anything going on your end before we talk? No, it's been it's been uh a heavy week. So, I have been working on a few client projects, a few of my own projects the and honestly I've been just like clawed code maxing all day every day. Yeah. And I'm going to say well I'm going to say one thing about that claw design it's becoming it's becoming serious like for real claw design like if you are using Figma and you are not all for the the system stuff you know in Figma you do like system design with tokenization of of everything and like all of that if you don't necessarily need that What? Man, it's scary good. It's scary good. So, just a quick share uh emails for my for the newsletter of my library and you know tool that I'm building. Claude. Well, Claude helped me to make each one of these components and then make the videos for them and then make the videos on the video and all of that and the emails and now everything is in cloud design and every time you need something you just say do it in claw design and this is manually by cla manually by claude synced with my email tool. So I I didn't have to touch Figma for that. This is something that I would do in Figma. Fable 5.1 in this case because it was design. I did use Fable. Otherwise, Opus is really good. Opus is really This isn't exactly a complicated design. Let's be honest. Like it's you could have probably just saved a few tokens with um with Opus. I agree. I agree. I I did try to make some variations that's why like you see more these are things that I threw out these I don't need above I need and these were variations that's why I took Fable to see like can it actually do more cool stuff it's like no the simpler ones are fine but you're right yeah especially you don't want to you don't want to hammer their data their end and oftent times when I'm I don't know whether I've got a setting I've never been able to figure this out. But on my mail, it stops images loading just so I get the main core of the email and I have to explicitly click load images. So again, you don't want to just [ __ ] up the experience for the other person really. So yeah. Ah, simple is better. So um agree. Cool. So this is this is an interesting question and it's another launchpad for us to talk about what can we do to fill in the gap. So, what tool stack do we use to build small side hustle website? The answer is always going to be AI. Obviously, we're going to use AI. I will be having a video. I've recorded this video about how to take a website uh through to a more production level website. But I do but it's not very technical and I do I do want to make a more technical version of what we need to be like looking out for and this and that because I think it's very very simple. Talk to you know, tell us how we can be more clear. But I'm going to attempt to answer this better than just use AI, but definitely talk this stuff through with your AI to, you know, ask it these questions and see what it comes back to you with. But the thing I'll be looking out a small high side hustle website, if it's a if it's a static marketing website, we'll call it straight up Astro, right? That's the that's the best tool. That's the best tech tech uh platform to to write the code. The code is then on your live machine. You then need to host that. So I the simplest way to host it would be something like Versel and again ask your AI to do to do this for you. But if you go but to teach a man how to fish talk to your AI about what tech stack you should use to build a static website it will probably come back to you with Astro or something like and then ask it how do I get this live and it will probably say something like Versel or or Cloudflare workers as well is another one. Um but have those conversations with your AI uh and see what comes up with it. Um, yeah. But I I I think like he's more looking into like our recommendation. So, but the things you said are absolutely That is my What do you mean? Because that is my recommendation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I thought like you're more leaning towards ask your AI for what? No. No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying I would be looking out for Astro and I would be looking at I'd actually probably personally look at Cloudflare workers. I just don't know if Astro runs on Cloudflare workers. I'm pretty sure it does because I think they've all they're all incestuous relationship between Cloudflare, Astro, Web Flow and all that sort of thing. So definitely look at those things. There are many more questions I I would have to ask because then then it becomes a point of well do you then load it in um what was the what was the uh tool that you you brought? Was it stacky? No, no, not stacky but it's like stacky. So instatic instatic whether you would need instatic and whatever but whatever a small little website whatever so so the yeah go on well I can see you've brought up the next comment now about the actual look and and whatever um the the the uh design skills there's lots of design skills that help the out ofthe-box AI is fine but compare um adding the design skill, using something like Clawude Code or or Open Code or something like that. Adding the design skill helps make it more personable. Um because then the other option is using something like lovable or replet or base 44 where just go and do it in that but they they they can be quite expensive and I know you've mentioned price. So the cheapest way would be to use not even clawed code probably just um VS Code with a with a kilo code plugin or or or cursor and use tokenbased prices to get because it shouldn't take you all that long just to get something up and running but you might end up there's no free method really. Yeah, but that that's kind of like the the issue. If you go with a cheap model, the design will suffer. Like if you want the best design, because you mentioned design, if you want the best design, the clawed ones are best. Uh the claude models are the best at design. Um Chad GPT models second like OpenAI models second after Claude. I would say if you want only like the good price go I would say just go with GLM 5.3 through Z code you get a lot of with a design skill definitely with a design skill because yes it will help it it will just you know Yeah. Uh and like with $18 a month with Z code you get just so many tokens and every day they give you like a 100 million tokens. Um, I unsubscribed from my z code because I cannot use all of like I'm I'm just I have enough tokens right now. But the moment I feel the need for it, I will subscribe again for to Z code. I think it's the best um kind of like value that you can get and also the ease of use. You get you get that the the desktop app, you go in it, you create a folder, you say like whatever skill that you need, you add it and then you get going. Now about your last comment. Yes, you do need to add prompts for the little changes. That's kind of like how you make the design yours. If you say too little or just something generic, something generic will come out because that that's just the nature of AI. Uh if you want to make it personal, try to describe what you want or find good examples. Go on Pinterest, go on awards, find examples that you are interested in. Try to get the essence of those things like what is interesting about those designs that you want. Get those essence out. Give it to the agent. Say say what you want and then the rest of it is essentially what you describe. You do need to prompt every detail. Like the things I I build, you know, I I describe them specifically. It's not that the AI magically comes up with everything. Um, my response to this is, yeah, I mean, it's another question back to you. We're going to have to move on. We can't just sit and answer these questions for the whole thing. But my um my response is like well if you if you are refusing if you don't want to use AI and you don't want to prompt well the middle ground is something like instatic or um uh stacky uh which is Timothy Rick's open source thing where you you prompt the initial website and then you edit and tweak it within the tool itself if if you're you know familiar with something like web flow right so that would be like a hybrid approach to leveraging AI for all of the technical stuff, but then having that ability to tweak if you are not interested in using AI apps whatsoever because you started out saying that it looks cheap when you use AI. So that's why we assumed that you were just comfortable making every little change. You might go down the hybrid approach. Whereas if you just don't want to touch AR whatsoever like web flow you know something like web flow or framer like I don't know whether that's too a too simple assumption to make but if you yeah if you don't want to use AR whatsoever you can go down that route but in static and and and Astro I think it is definitely a a a route to go down because they enable you to they they read all of the the design and you're able to then tweak it then but I think you're yeah That's I think that's the middle ground there is is that sort of thing if you don't want to be tweaking everything with the UI. Um yeah, let us know more. We can't stick around on it, but let us know more questions you might have because we do want to try and bridge this gap that people have with jumping, you know, creating websites with AI because we still recognize there's a bit of a gap with some people. Let's um jump into the first article because we've got a fair bit to get through. But do you want to do you want to do the intro what we're gonna uh yeah so this week we have Salesforce rebranding AI force to SI force and it looks horrifying if you're a designer you have to close your eyes because it will burn your retina guaranteed uh annoy you as well I think it would and yeah yeah I I will not guarant guarantee I actually I will guarantee your frustration and I will guarantee cursing. It's I genuinely went on that. Okay, I need to continue with let's just do the intro with the intro. Yeah, levels IO said software is dead and it it was a huge thing and then who is the other guy? Mark came out with another SAS. So, it's kind of like interesting what's happening in the SAS. Uh, we'll talk about that. X tw formerly Twitter. I mean, I don't know. Is it Twitter X? Anyway, the company X now has one subscription and I really like this. Uh, they have one subscription for Grock, Cursor, X premium. You get all of those. You get also the Grock bot. Um, so it's a centralized subscription. We'll show you the the differences. Uh Meta launched Muse Wonder uh which looks very powerful, even better than OpenAI. Google launches Gemini for uh Argon um for developers and businesses. And Anthropic actually um is replacing Git with their own new system because they are producing so much code and Git is so bad. We'll see how they are doing this. And Figma came back. Figma is not dead with code layers that you can copy from anywhere. So we'll show you. Actually, I can't show you because it doesn't work, but we'll show you what it does in the videos. And payload in Figma. Now you have the Figma uh CMS for the bipoded projects that you do in Figma. And actually lastly, Tesla, we did talk about that one. So if you are um if you just joined us now, after the show, you can go back and watch watch that segment uh about Tesla. Um all of this in today's episode. This is Command AI. I'm Kavarzel and I'm Sam and this is a week in AI design and dev. Um, so yes, Salesforce, imagine being a $188 billion organization and launching your flagship AI generated logo that no designer checked. Well, that's basically what Salesforce did. And designers, shield your eyes because this is about to get ugly. Uh, oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. Here we go. So yeah, I checked that. I I I I I genuinely thought people are trolling. I thought this is there is no way this is real. Yeah, it is real. Like absolutely somebody who who is this guy? Who's like Mark? Um this guy. No, but like the the the guy who the CEO of Salforce shared that by the way. Oh. Oh, I see. Yeah. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. This is the CEO of Salesforce sharing their logo that I I I don't I don't know. I don't know what to say. Like, did he ask your his um bot? Yeah. Can Can you zoom in even more so we make sure everybody suffers as much as we I don't want I don't want to be alone in this suffering. Man, this is bad. I mean, outside of the obvious, but you've got this I mean, this looks awful, but I is this to do with their I'm not massively familiar with their original branding, but this disgusting looking I don't know. But then look at that. It's like, you know, comparable to like five fingers when AI first came out. It's not only a terrible thing. Um, but this choppiness around there just looks freaking awful. And this just so there's just so many layers to this that are hard to ignore. First of all, it's very clear that this egotistical [ __ ] got excited in front of some shitty AI, probably Canva, and generated a logo that was in his head. And because he's the CEO, just posted about it and has sent this through none of his very probably very highly paid designers to say, "Hey man, I've come up with this logo. like, "Can you just check it for me and make sure it looks good?" Nah, nah. Because he's the CEO because he's so full of himself, he just launches it. And this reflects so badly on those designers because you would assume that this did go through designers, but clearly not. Clearly, clearly not. And I'm not sure what to make of this because to me this looks like it's a JPEG that's been thrown into Illustrator to make it into a vector, like a vectorzation tool. So, who knows what the workflow was, but it definitely wasn't the result of $188 billion organization. This is an embarrassment. An absolute embarrassment. Um, the responses are just through the roof. Like actually, let's go into the original tweet and let's just have a little look cuz there's one thing to uh have some selfrespect. Genuinely pathetic. S stands for sellout. I mean, whatever. Massively cut your A. Oh, that's an advert. Sorry. Ignore that advert. Congrats. You embarrassed yourself and your company way beyond the next two years, dumbass. Funny enough, none of these are actually telling him what it is. But like, I bet he's like, "Oh, what what are people talking about? What are people talking about?" You know? Oh, yeah. terrible. I mean, Salesforce was never known for good design, so maybe they are just leaning into being incapable of doing design. I mean, but I mean I know you're coming from the design aspect and I guess I'm coming from just a a workflow organizational like have pride in your company perspective of like you know if the design if the designers probably don't have a lot of free reign because they're locked under the brand guidelines but at least the the actual implementation should have been done correctly even if Even if you don't like the design, the actual implementation you could at least respect. But clearly again, whether he AI vibe code vibe designed this logo and got too excited and just didn't run it through anyone. I mean, AI [ __ ] did and they fired all their designs or some market or they just put it through my I don't know, but it's it's humiliating for all designers out there. Some people say they are like rage baiting to to get attention. I just don't think so. And if they they are getting attention, but from who? They are getting attention from designers who are not going to, you know, use Salesforce anyway. It just like creates this memory in you just not respecting the brand because that's that that's what their CEO does. It's just insane. Yeah. I think a lot of the comments are against this super intelligence thing here. Yeah. Um but obviously the design community is is absolutely outraged. So uh it's uh yeah I mean this is this is what is happening right? Yeah. Yeah. Uh it is what it is. I think should move on move on from that atrocity. Do you have anything else to say? No. No really. Salesforce, if you want a good designer, just hit me up. Well, that's the thing. I think they do have them. They have good designers. You're going to be working under Salesforce brand guidelines. Remember that. But they probably have very very capable designers and they just chose not to not to use them for some reason. But um yeah, let's go to the next one. So, is SAS dad dead? Dad. Dad. Dad. Well, according to Today is not a good day for my English. According to levels, it is. Um, so he sent out this tweet which got a lot. Can you zoom in please? Uh, which got a lot of responses. Software is dead. Very, very simple. It's now the era of personal software and everyone just builds what they need whenever they think they it whenever they need it. I think this isn't new and the re one of the reasons why I bring this up is because we've been saying this for absolutely ages did not get a good response uh from people. Um, you know, uh, Curo here said, "You wanted to say some, you wanted to say some in tech instead of everyone, giving that people always say everyone's doing this, everyone's doing that. It's clickbaity. It gets people's attention." Uh, so why don't you shut down all of your SAS? Because if you don't know who Levels is, he's kind of this nomadic um app designer. He's he's king of like viral apps that when when AI first came out, he he released this this plane awful playing game that had all of these adverts in it and he was making so much money from it. So, he's pretty good with all that viral stuff and he's still claiming they they still make money, you know. Um I saw our friend Rhyar chip in on this like not agreeing as well, but people are disagreeing with it. Uh I do think I agree with him. Certainly, I think that personal software is is it definitely the future, but I think there's a there's a lot of semantics and nuance that just gets lost in the discourse, right? When we say something's dead, right? When we say After Effects is dead or the Adobe suite has been killed, right? People say no, it hasn't. And what I think that what we think we need to make clear here is that if we say something's dead, there will no doubt be people who look at the free Adobe software or and they were already doing this looking at claude code thinking, "Huh, I can just stop paying for this thing anymore because I can just vibe code it for themselves." Right? You cannot tell me that there is there is going to be tons of people who take that approach. So for for those people for so many people these Adobe is dead Adobe's been killed right it's not going to be for everyone but it will be for some people therefore that warrants the the call that something has been killed because it has not everything is is you the the viewer not everything is meant to appeal to you. So there's that. The the the whole idea that um again this whole idea of SAS is that a lot of people also think that what you you're just going to get some average Joe to just vibe code the Adobe suite or whatever and then sell that. No, we're not saying that that people will build things to sell. It's this personal software. It's like they're not they don't need it to be secure. They don't need it to be running on any servers. They're literally the amount of apps I've got running on my um computer right now that don't touch the web whatsoever is crazy. So, it's this personal personal software thing. So, I think that semantically is something worth mentioning, right? That it's it's personal software. And I also don't think it is going to well going back to what we said about things are dead. I don't think it's going to be everyone. There are still going to be people who pay for SAS cuz it is a ball lake to figure out some things. You're going to get halfway into building an app and think, "Fuck, this is so much harder than I thought it' be." And then just going to go back to the SAS solution. But there is no doubt going to be a lot a lot of people who and the more intelligent AI gets, you'll be able to write the sloppiest prompt in the history of the face of the earth, replicate uh Adobe Suite, make no mistakes. Do you know what I mean? and it will [ __ ] do it. That will be that will be where we get to. So, yes, but what is the point of that, you know? What's that? I like uh I don't see that everybody will do that because like what would be like long term you still need to maintain it, you still need to make it better and maybe AI can do all of that. Uh well on one side if you especially if you start with something uh open source you could actually have all of those benefits right so I do see a world in which a lot of software is dead but for us my point is I think this is going to be something for us and I think there will be a new distribution of SAS in a way that there will be tons of more SAS but much smaller and sold to kind of like more of like direct consumers with like more specific needs. So imagine web flow was selling its service essentially to us developers and designers and we were like selling it to clients. I think it will go more in the directions of me having my own way of working and solutions in vibe coded but my clients probably by enlarge won't do it so I will be still doing it for them so it's kind of like a tiny sass yeah yeah yeah sure and and in this age it's kind of like before was also similar in this age distribution is everything and it's now more important than ever like If both of us can do the same thing and can create the same software um given that we are both descriptive and have the same idea and the same good approach. Um who will win is the one who can distribute. But previously it was like there were many more more hoops at the start like you you had to hire people to be able to code and all of that. Right now that's no more the problem. So you are directly facing the distribution problem. Yeah. Like it's just the the the the most immediate thing now like you start something you have it. Yeah. Um where are you leaning towards then personal software or you are you leaning towards a small soass multiple different customers but only that's what I'm seeing. Yes, that's what I'm seeing like um on one side our like us as people who were using SAS like we were using SAS and up kind of like upselling it like a lot of these services that we were paying for we were doing it for our clients. I think we will be building these for our clients and clients will be paying us and we will slowly develop some sort of like SAS to to serve these types of clients as like people who give the service and on the higher level I think he is right like the big SAS is dead I don't think many people will use not well not many people is the wrong the many people is the wrong term I as many people will use the big SAS. I don't think there is like there should be this like more people to use like these type of like Mailchimp for example um is extremely expensive and I mentioned this tweet and I think this is kind of related. Mark came up with uh he said I vibe coded uh beehive and it's 83% cheaper. It's a email delivery system, right? Like for newsletter and all of that. And he's calling it mailchep.ai like Mailchimp. And it's open source as well like you could uh run it yourself or you know pay a little amount instead of paying the full amount. So what I see here is the distribution of SAS on a lower level. I'm calling lower because I mean like it's more direct like this guy makes a specific small SAS and now he has clients and these clients are smaller. It's like he he will have less clients compared to Mailchimp. Yeah. Does that make sense? Kind of. kind of because you know I had a call today with someone who wants to like they're not they're kind of technical but they're not that technical and they want to replace a lot of their their software that they're paying for and they want to build it for them and because we can actually we don't need a one-sizefits-all we can actually have a bespoke uh approach to building software is like Mailchip was going might work for him. But if a client's might like we don't want that like it's cheap but like it still doesn't work the way that we want and the moment they get a sniff of that which is what I guess we're talking about is moment moment people realize that they can just get software built pretty cheaply for themselves the way that they want they won't even settle for mailcheep because it's like well we'll just we'll just have our own cuz we're still paying you like we'd ra we'd rather just have our own. I think the the the overall thing here is like we're again we're just arguing about semantics regarding that for many many many people um they'll just build their own software. They just they they'll learn that they can just build their own software. So they'll either hire someone to build their own software or they'll vibe it themselves or whatever. They're not looking to try and give it to anyone else because it works the way they want to and it it just does the job. There will be plenty of people still looking for SAS solutions out there, but like or who will still pay for Adobe, who will still pay for Mailchimp just because it's not a massive impact to their bottom line. It's not a painful experience for them whatsoever. So like you know um extreme um uh what do you call it when you're really explicit like hyperbole aside there is definitely going to be a a an exodus of people who realize build their own software which I'm experiencing I'm experiencing people who uh like we want we just want our own version we just don't want to be paying all these SAS prices anymore we just want because we know we can now saying that the um other thing that I wanted to show as well is um this have you seen this? No real reverse engineer everything and I've seen it on Twitter. It basically just um enters into the binary files of these apps and re reverse engineers it. And it's crazy like I I'm I don't know. Have you played with it? I mean it's MPX. You just MPX re agent setup and then you and it's an MCP so you can just use the you can use the MCP to to ask it to reverse engineer and then you can just do it. This is just just bonkers. Yeah. Yeah. I I've seen the results on Twitter and people are reverse engineering anything. So essentially uh yeah that that that's really cool. That's really cool. And I think we will just have more of this. And I mean we we we talked about this briefly like uh PlayStation being able to sim simulate it on your PC. Like if you extend that to software like to everything like basically we can have any software that exists we can have the open source version of it with something like imagine reverse engineer anything. Yeah. you reverse engineer anything and you have open source version of that thing. Now the question becomes do you want to deal with the hassle of installing the open source version and theoretically maintaining it or do you want to continue paying for it? Uh I think in case of like for us we will probably do the the first we will just you know install the the open source version and stop paying. Um, speaking of like Streamyard, I don't know if there was a open-source version of Streamyard, but I could imagine like pointing that uh like reverse engineer everything to to Streamyard and see what it does. That would be cool. Yeah. Well, I don't know if you remember this, but we did we did do a little vibe coded example, right? And it wasn't it was one prompt and it it kind of worked. So, like given that Opus 5.5 is so killer now, like it would be interesting to see like we I mean we've got until March or June next year. So, we've still got a bit of time to uh to do this, but maybe maybe we do like a hackathon weekends where we just see if we can vibe out uh Streamyard and because I think we figured out everything that we want, right? I I can't The only thing that we might want is to broadcast to more more platforms because that's in the that's in the tier above. But it it would save us so much money, you know, if we if we just vibe coded our own. Um yeah, it would still cost because the actual storing of the files, but once you know you know once you've done what you need with those files like i.e. download them, um it could be that that it doesn't cost us all that much. Do you know? So, and we could probably do so much more with it. Like once it's streamed, it sends off a web hook and automatically downloads and then it starts editing and this and that. So, probably have a lot more. That's what they need. I think they need more integrations where once you stop like web hooks basically. I mean, they might already have them. I don't know. But anyway, we're getting too um Yeah. Uh anyway. Yeah. Software. Obviously, obviously there'll be people still buying SAS, but for a lot of people, a lot of my from my experience as well, people are looking for free cheap alternatives that they can own themselves and run themselves without paying someone else, you know. Um, let's talk about X subscription. Yeah, let's actually let me open the You got this one? Yeah. Um I I think I will just show the the the video. You shall I do that because you don't get audio? Uh, let me have a little listen because the music we we don't need the audio. Oh, you mean like my audio or like the video? You don't need the audio for it. Okay. All right. So, uh, what was the intro? I'm not sure if we had an intro. Anyway, we have now X subscriptions, which is combining your Twitter, also X uh Grock, the the bot cursor and X premium, all of those subscriptions into one. Um, and it it looks pretty good to me. So, you have the Grock bot, the Grock, the the chat, the the voice, the the images that you can make with Grock, the bot cursor subscription, and X. now all into one. And you have uh these like five different tiers, the free version, the $8,30, 100, and 200. And we can actually check the pricing here. It It looks pretty simple and clean. So, I'm on the $8 because of the streams that we do on Twitter and also like you have better quality uploads. So here you get the the check mark, you get less ads, enhance creator tools, that's why we are on it. Uh you have better analytics and now you have like Grock chat, Grock API access and cursor in the same subscription. That's really nice. So now I can use cursor to some degree without paying more. I I really like that. It's nice, but um is there a catch? I think I I don't think it's a c I don't think there's a catch, but I I guess in some ways like you just have to use it yourself. Like some people might not want to some people might want to compartmentalize their subscriptions. They want their cursor account. You know what I mean? They just want to pay for their cursor stuff and so that they use some people might be account sharing. Exactly. Right. Yeah. And you can actually keep your subscriptions as they are. You don't have to do this like this unification at least for now. Yeah. You you can keep it as it was at in the premium. Now, this is where it gets interesting for me because now that I'm paying eight bucks and I get all of this, I'm actually thinking, hm, should I get the premium and get the Grogbot as well? Because previously, I would have to pay the $8 and $30. It would they were separate. Now that they are together, I'm like incentivized to actually upgrade. Are you using Dropbot then? No, I'm not. But I'm I'm like if I can try it, you know, that's what I'm thinking. Like I haven't upgraded like I could. I did just release a video on Openbot. So there's lots of open source I should check that running. I want to do a video on how to get it how to get it online. I want to that's that's a video I want to do. I need to remind myself to do that. But how much is your Twitter subscription? Uh the $8. So you might as well go for the $8 and get grock and I guess you don't get that as well. Yeah, that's that's what I'm saying. At the very least, you should go eight. Are you on the eight $8 a month one or are you pay are you paying for you're just on Twitter? So you might as well get I have to do this unified way. Yeah, I have to go I don't know exactly how I should do the basically how you change it, but you should be able to anyway. Then you have the super and the super is like 15x more usage compared to plus and I yeah we need to we need to get better information on what they mean compared like because they could technically mean the the weekly limit or the hourly limit which are completely different like you could technically get five times more I'm just making an up a number and not 15 if they mean either of those things. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My other my other question is like it's just because I'm not aware of where cursor is right now. I haven't opened up cursor in year in probably over a year now. How do the subscriptions work in cursor? Do you get like you just get that in API costs or do they have their own plan where you can do you know I'm not sure I know what you're saying but I'm not sure what the answer is. I think they will ask you to I guess to sign in to authenticate through the XAI and then you get through here. No, no. What I mean is and I'm just looking if I don't if I go to cursor.com and then just go to pricing and have a look at what what their pricing plans are like. That would be my answer basically. But but they keep it right. They keep So here we are on cursor. So the pricing of like cursor can keep their own pricing. I know that. I know that. Sorry. Hang on. Let me explain a second. Well, actually it's the same. What do the what do the plan the cursor only plans what do they get you? What do they give you in terms of that? That's interesting. Now yeah, the your question is here answers. If you look at my screen, look, if I I'm on cursor.com, just to be clear, I'm on cursor.com and the pricing page is pretty much identical. So, you can't buy cursor on its own. You can buy cursor on its own. You buy it through cursor, but you get X features as well. So, it's the same subscription. You just buy it through a different place, but it's the same. And it gives you this. It seems like that. I'm I'm still curious on on the usage of c cuz just because from what I from what I remember cursor is it's all done through API like maybe they give you a certain amount of usage for like 20 bucks what it used to be like yeah just unknown amount of usage but but this is what what they are saying like the usage for cursor is the same as if you would buy it from XAI it doesn't matter and how much they give you could differ depending depending on the model that you use. Right? In both cases, what I'm saying in both cases, it is through the API, right? I know that. I know that. That's not quite my question, but it's all good. Okay. I I think maybe um I'm not understanding it correctly. I'm just curious to know how how what your plan gets you in cursor. That's all I'm asking is like what does your plan get you inside of cursor? Let's say you just use cursor. What does it give you in cursor? How much you see? Well, it tells you not much. It just tells you you get agent. For example, if you get the $200, you get the agent claw agent automation, but it doesn't tell you how much how many tokens. But also, you know, um you don't get those numbers from Chach and Claude either, right? No, but cursor works just slightly differently, I think, because you because you can use multiple models. That's true. That's true. But they they never told us how much you get actually. It's just kind of they they might change it the middle of your uh um subscription period. Okay. Well, it does say third party models are API list prices. So that's you just get, you know, if you if you were to have this have this uh subscription but just use Claude as an example, your account will just be deducted at API prices. Whereas I'm guessing for Curs's models or or SpaceX AI's models, whatever the [ __ ] it is right now, you probably just get an unknown amount like we do in Clawude 5X or 10X or Open AAI, you know, 5X, whatever it is. So yeah. Well, either way, I mean, if you're into the ecosystem of Grock and SpaceX AI and all this sort of stuff, it's pretty it's pretty cool. Yeah. It's funny how Grock bot though is reserved for premium. Like this has always confused me why Grockbot is such a a premium product for them. Well, it takes a it probably uses a lot of tokens maybe, but you know, Open AAI don't reserve their you know, you get it once you start paying for it. Do you know you just get it as far as I'm aware? Yeah. Uh I might try this. I might. Let's see. I cancelled my Z code, so I might instead buy this. So, you're not paying the $18 a month anymore? Not for the next month because I I'm just I have enough tokens. Once I don't, maybe I will buy again from what? From Claude. Yeah, Claude and Chad GPT. I have like multiple Chad GPT. By the way, I I I tried to cancel my personal chip because I have the personal pro and the agency pro. It gave me a month for free and I was like, "Okay, I'll take it. I'll take it." Yeah. We'll cancel next month. I made a video on the It won't ever go out, but I made a video on the code review chatbt. they will launch chatbt code review in on dot dev day. Um, and it means it just it just listens to your GitHub and just reviews code automatically. Basically replacing Code Rabbit. And so I think I might because I was paying for Code Rabbit for 30 quid a month or something. I might just jump to the $20 a month for OpenAI. Um cuz that's a really nice setup for me is the $100 Claude and then the $20 Open AAI which covers pretty much everything. And and we'll get into it a little bit later on if we get time, but like the voice mode, I really like the voice mode of um OpenAI GBT. Do you use uh Daybreak? Uh asked as asked by Darius. What's Daybreak? I don't know what Daybreak is. Let's have a little Do you want to Google search it? Yeah. as you are on the screen share. No, but the answer is no. I don't use daybreak. I wouldn't even know. Open AI daybreak. It's for cyber security. Oh, cyber security. No, I'm not doing anything that requires that. Yeah. Nothing, you know. Uh, Fable will will be my cyber security person if I need cyber security. Yeah. Yeah. I don't need this level of uh security either. Like Fable is good enough. And what is this? Is it a set of skills or is it is it a tool? Like how how does one use Daybreak? I'm not sure. It's the harness, the model, the harness. So use it if you can. Security MD. That's That's kind of funny. Security MD. Explore the defense factory. Uh explore Daybreak Solutions. I guess it's just like MD files. M must there must be a model. There must be a model that is special to it. We're we're expanding Daybreak to help democratize patching vulnerable software example blah blah blah. Uh we're launching update to the code security plugin which implements what we've learned. And then cyber GBT 5.5 cyber. Yeah. Dario says it's an OpenAI model that is less restricted. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably not a different model architecture. It's the same model but um probably with like just less uh less restriction. Yeah. Fable is fine. Fable's fine. Fable is fine. I agree. Should we go next? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, let's uh let's talk about Meta Muse Wonder. So, Muse literally came out of nowhere and launched a frontier model that actually beats Open AI. That's crazy. That's crazy. They're back. They're back. Mark is back. Mark is back. Um, introducing Muse Wonder, our new family of Frontier models with state-of-the-art performance and personal and professional agentic work. And you've all you've got to do is look into the That's rubbish, isn't it? All you've got to do is look into the benchmarks and it is it is scoring pretty damn well and it's been used. It's been confirmed. This is This is That's fine. Well, when I zoom in because it's been scroll hijacked, I can't zoom around. Yeah. Um but yeah, not so uh and by the way, there's two models. There's Muse Wonder and there's Muse Wonder Full. And the first one, Muse Wonder, is available through their API. However, Muse Wonderful is only available through their plan. And look at this website. How nice is that? Yeah. I feel like everybody is doing it, but it's really nice. I like it. Yeah, it's really cool. Um, yeah, really cool effect. Um, so yeah, a little little history lesson for you here. So, Muse Spark was released, you know, pretty all right. Then M Spark 1.1, 1.2, 2 1.3 climbing the ranks with them. Um, god knows how they're able to do this. Is this current benchmarks cuz so amuse Spark basically dominating all of the benchmarks? I don't know. Either way, Muse Wonder hits us here just ahead of GBT uh Soul or at least on par with GBT Soul, but then Muse Wonder full is second only to Claude Opus 5.5 over FA Fable 5.1 over Astra over Argon. And it's it's pretty damn cool. Pretty damn good. Um, I tried using it, but as I say, it's only available through their Muse code platform. And this honestly is an awful CLI. It's such a basic rubbish CLI. It looked like it looks like Codeex. It looks wor slightly slightly worse than codeex, but you've got a $5 a month um that gives you access to Muse Spark, Muse Wonder, and Muse Image. Higher usage again, but it's only the power usage that gets you Muse Wonderful. So, it's $50 a month to get that. And I wasn't willing to pay that. I I didn't even know if I'd have the time to even look into it. So, but yeah, it's it's a pretty good um pretty good model. the the UI. I saw that the UI was pretty rubbish. Um, did you see any impressive impressive usages or examples? No, I haven't seen anybody building anything like super useful with it, but I mean these models are getting better and it was expensive. It was really expensive from YC. Even though you're paying for the $50 a month plan, people were chewing through that. And then Alexander Wang pushed out that he's they've been seeing quotota usage um okay more so they reset the reset the limits even after that like this is a this is an expensive model and even the price of let me find it for you um even the API pricing it's it's quite expensive I think it's opus level I'm just trying to look for it behind in the scene here. Um, no, I can't find it. So, yeah, it would have been nice if we had the wonderful on API pricing just so we can just vibe code a little demo. But yeah, yeah, I I do not like Muse code as a as a platform. But cool to see that, you know, they just jumped in on on second place on actual coding. Like, it's a usable coding thing. Yeah. I I want to just add I find it interesting that CHPT well open AAI and uh claude you know CHP and claude are two products that are adding features they have like fe it's not just the model anymore for them it's the whole suit of features that you they give you like claude code design I've been using it which is crazy I didn't see that coming but I used it and it's good so I'm using it So to me it's like hm it's now it's becoming again hard to leave an ecosystem because of just the model you just get so much you get so much I mean they are banking on the muse the actual muse which is this device which is this bot agent thing that does a bunch of stuff like they do have that which is the hot trendy thing right now but are people willing to to to buy this plan for for that? So that's my point. Yeah, probably not. But again, back to the point with the reverse engineering everything. Maybe we can reverse have a reverse engineered Figma kind of like open source and then you can run it uh with any agent that you want and then theoretically there you go, you have Muse Wonder or Wonderful and you can do whatever you want. But all of this is a question of you know how good the environment and the software around it is which makes me think will we arrive at a point where like so like maybe open um open source software is already getting there where you could donate your tokens that would be kind of like you know you know what I'm trying to to point out here so like the like you see OpenAI doing crazy stuff with their models. They are building new software. They are coming up with stuff. What if and the reason you can't do it, one of the reasons is like you don't have as many tokens, but what if you have an open source project and you could kind of like get the help of the community with their tokens to do something. So that would be a really cool concept. I don't I understand how the subscriptions and the authentication works, but it would be cool if we could somehow figure it out a way as a community to contribute to a software. Maybe maybe maybe the next poll request is not a like a fixed uh issue. Maybe the next pull request is a known issue and then you take that as you know your task to fix it. Yeah. Kind of like Bitcoin Bitcoin mining like there there are pools for that. Yeah. And there are pools you can do to you can actually donate your compute like on your computer. Um you you can donate like your graphics card and also CPU to cancer research and things like that. So there are existing tools for that but that's kind of like the same concept but you know you you download like the PR is a known issue and then you contribute your to maybe there there can be like a even a skill for it that can run around a a public like an open source tool and everybody just points at their agents to it and the agents take care of like solving everything and it's M the the the the tokens are coming from all of us. But that runs into runs us into a serious problem because we know the subsidization is making the tokens so cheap. And if we do something like this and more people do something like this, we will be all paying the the real price of the tokens because then the subsidization won't work anymore. Obviously, well, Christian's saying if you're open to that, Christian's saying he'll take the clawation from you. So, it's really nice of you to offer that there. I'm I'm not going to be contributing to the pool, but you know, um I did I you know, I did I did briefly think about uh renting GPU. I might even still look into it like given that's my focus now is local AI and stuff. But you can, yeah, there are pools and there are ways that you can if your if your computer is constantly connected to the internet that that you can rent it out, you know, people can rent your GPU. Um, but saying all that, um, on the subject of Muse, you can now run Muse on your Mac in like a con, I think it was a collaboration with Apple. You can now run muse uh open muse spark open. All of these we the the naming is getting very confusing in my eyes. Muse spark open is the open weight version of muse spark which is the lower model and you can run it on two Apple M5 Ultra Mac Studios with 512 gig of RAM because it's a 800 gig model. Um so this is quite cool I guess. Again, benchmarks. It's a local model. You can't expect too much. Optimize for Apple Silicon running the latest version of MLX. I can maybe zoom in a little bit. Run on a Mac on Mac Studio. So, they don't say run on a Mac Studio. Well, this is actually how you know it's a it's a collaboration with Apple because you're not allowed to put uh what's it called when you you're not saying it's a Studio. You're not allowed to say that. Get get the latest app on on iPhone. They never say on a iPhone or an iPhone. This is brand guidelines. Interesting. Yeah. So maybe this is a collaboration, but it is actually too there's no plur pluralization of it. Well, there is actually there to be fair. But anyway, um you can get it on hugging face here. There's two there's two versions. There is a um quantized 4-bit version which is 484 billion parameters um which I don't know how big that is um and I always forget files how to actually see how big these files are. Bear with me. The sound in the background. I'm just hearing that now you can hear it. I don't know. Either way, two Max Studios is what it takes to to run this bloody model. So that's crazy. They're still contributing to the open source stuff, which is cool. They're not just f it's not just all about um wonderful or wonder. Um but yeah, Muse Spark open is available. Uh we can move on now. I think I don't actually I can't be bothered to talk about Gemini 4 Argan to be honest. Yeah, I really can't I'm just not interested in Gemini in the slightest anymore. Yeah, same. as long as you came for Argon for, but we I'm I haven't even used it. I've got nothing to say about it. I'm not excited about it. What are you doing if you came for that? Like yeah, you you're probably you can't be saved. Yeah. Uh let's get up the anthropic thing. So basically Anthropic invented their own version control system. uh reinvented git and built it for themselves. All Christians actually before I go into that uh definitely know that it's not reach because the namings are so bad. Exactly. Yeah, that's the muse spark and all that sort of [ __ ] You at least get the uh model to come up with some sort of decent naming. But anyway, um yeah, Anthropic have reinvented Git, created their own version control system for their code, and it's basically because they are using agents so much. They're pushing so much code up into git that they just needed a whole new system. So they called it Scion. And I mean, if you don't know, I I don't know how how low level we need to go right now, but if you if you write code with a especially with a team, then you've got your main bit of code that goes to production, and every time you want to build a feature, you duplicate the code, make all your changes, and then you make a request for that code to be put into the main production branch. and git kind of tracks all of the changes the text changes and but if you're in a team if two of you change the same line of text then that's what they call a conflict and you can manage that conflict and this and that. So, it's good for humans and as they say in this article here, it's still good for most people. Gits, right? This is something very bespoke to them and it's not something they're going to be releasing. But going through the article, in May 2026, Anthropic averaged around 2,500 code changes code changes merged per day. As of September, we've merged over 30,000 per day. That's crazy. Yeah, there's a little graph like and I don't know what is this quiet week. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Um what um what I've noticed though is that I'm updating my apps all of the time now. I'm finding there's just always an update for an app and it's quite tiring. Like I feel like they need to wait until they've got some a decent chunk because it's just it's [ __ ] update fatigue I've got going on here. Yeah. Uh anyway to in order to support this growth we built Scion which sounds so like you know I don't know sounds weird an in-house version control system fully integrate fully migrated our monor repo from git in five months they started building it when they launched uh fable uh mythos if you remember back then that's when they started with it. Anthropic uses claude to write software far more than most almost any other company. We're so often the first to see where tools built for human scale start to strain. And then get git is a decentralized system as I explained. Every clone is a complete self-contained repository that can compute diffs, read history, blame and check out uh any revision whilst fully offline. So that's the other aspect of this, right? So the the big idea behind this is that um the properties that make git excellent for distributed offline work were actively undermining our ability to scale as a repo group. So we asked ourselves if we designed the source control with the fact that agents are always online in mind from the start what would that look like? So that's the that's the component to this that the everything's online. you've always connected and there are a few little workflows where I've began to think about like that like I'm always online. This computer is always online. So what what can I move to that to just do stuff for me because I just know that it's always going to be online. Um so uh git assumes that clients work offline and needs a complete copy of the repository since nearly all of our clients and agents and jobs we design sons client and protocols around a server that is always reachable and have clients fetch data when they need it. In Git, every client is capable of being a full-fledged server. In Scion, the server answers questions about the file history and blame. So, it's a it seems like it's a wrapper around it that you don't ask the file directly. You ask the service in front of the code and it tells you um interesting. Yeah. About files, commits, uh performs and performs a merges rebase and so on. The client maintains a bounded local copy cache uh lays out the working copy files on a disk and monitors for file file name changes file system changes sorry and gives users an ergonomic way to work with the server. It could compute very little on its own but in exchange requires much less data locally. So I'm guessing there must be a way to download this because I bet these people are working on flights and things like that. But the option is that you're just always working. Everything's just being done in a server. Um, commits must be cheap, incremental, and lock free. So, you know, we get in a little thing of uh making a big big change and and building that up. And then I don't know, do you use git? Like what what do are you like quite do you make branches? Do you make work trees? Do you use GitHub to do you use merge requests and things like that? Like what's your workflow? Yes. But but very minimally I do I do use it and even with some teammates but I'm not a pro right I'm quite new to it so we are using it I'm I'm doing the merges uh like but I don't actually like read the code I I look at what this is or like talk to my people about it and then hit the merge. Um but that's kind of like the extent I do use work I did use work trees but nowadays much less because it's very rare for me to to work on the same file you know like sometime like very often I'm making a component while doing the login side of things on the another session so the agents they don't u you know work on the same thing at the same time. Yeah, that was a big conversation, wasn't it, at the beginning? It's like, how do I get all of these agents working on the same codebase and then having a master agent actively looking and monitoring what everyone's doing? And it's probably everyone's different, right? Whether you work in an organization or whatever, but I'm I'm not working like that. Yeah. So it's very interesting like lately when I tell Claude to I say like push main uh very often it comes back and says you know there is another agent uh they're not finished with their work let's wait on them or uh or like when that one is finished tell me and I will push everything including their commits uh to main so it seems like they are very aware of the other agents actively working on the other files and that works out really well or even if the other agents are done and you're like push um to main it tells you you know what actually there are other comets from another session so that that's also very interesting so that's why I'm not using work trees and branches uh that the type of work that I do doesn't really require branches like I do a lot of design stuff and explorations and these are like versions but They don't need to be on a different branch. They exist on the same branch as like slash something or like a different page or a different path. Yeah. So I I use branches if at least for code reviews to be done by chatbt code review. So you know getting getting a chatbt model to review the code is at the very least because there's always issues. Trust me if you're pushing straight to main you're you're definitely pushing bugs up into main. Even with Fable, even with Opus, right, there's still going to there's always an issue. So, never is it a perfect bit of code that goes in. So, I do it for the code reviews, but um Christian is saying it isn't uh Scion from the Matrix. So, the Matrix is Zion, so with a zed z, but yeah, totally sounds like it. Um, and the only other thing that I marked in this article which was quite interesting and we've kind of already mentioned it is like how merge requests are solved. Basically, there is an agent and wrapping all of this. Like we we said there's like an API layer that's answering questions. I think it's literally an agent that is just this master [ __ ] thing taking everyone's code changes, working them out and this and that. um that's managing conflicts. So if two people edit the same file, it looks at those two edits and figures out what needs to be done. So they put a lot of faith in their agents. I swear to God, they're probably using a beast mode version. They're probably using Opus 6 or something like that. But yeah, um huge undertaking. Like I say, it won't be something that we can use. I mean, probably not. we it doesn't make sense for us to use it in this way. Um it's overkill really, but really impressive thing that's taken them five months to do and a lot I love reading these articles because you just learn a lot. You know, there's a lot of um a lot of uh yeah, learning to be made just by seeing what they're up to. And I like that they are committed to being very transparent about this because like I say, this would this is never going to get released, but they're obviously committed to making sure that they are staying a breast of the of the dev community. Yeah. Cool. Figma. Um, Figma, let me actually bring that up. I've got the articles, but I don't know how you want to. So we have two Figma news. Should we We could just bolt on the payload one. I don't think that's anything too much to go into. We can we can u go about it later. So let me actually I don't have the I need to bring up the blog again because I it didn't work by the way. Should I open Figma? Actually, let me open Figma so I can show it. I can show it not working for me. Can show it not working. Well, they might have fixed the bug. They might not know. They might stream live and there [ __ ] like [ __ ] We need to get it working for the commandi stream. Yeah, that would that would be nice. So uh that's my actually let me show the screen so the live viewers have something to look at while I successfully fail the show the Figma failing. So do I have what I need? Yes. All right. All right. So, um, wait, didn't we have the Yeah. Okay. Now, my screen might lag because I have opened Figma. It was closed. Okay. No, I think I think camera. I think it's your camera like we discussed. Okay. That's all right. We have a cool update from Figma uh called they are calling it design together with code layers on the canvas. So they showed us on fcon with the basically like having running code on the canvas and now you can actually use their Chrome uh extension to add these presumably these um live code components on the canvas. And the way it works, you just go to the extension that you have, you click on it, and now you have this new button. Previously, it was just capture design or like select element. Now you can capture code. So I can basically capture the code from this entire website and I can paste it in Figma and have everything that works here like the the animations, the JavaScript, the functionality should work. Let's do that. we paste it and pasting as a code layer isn't available to you yet. So even though on the extension side I can load it, I can copy it, it knows that what it is, but it doesn't let me paste it. So if I go back and capture design, it captures it. It's taking some time. And now it if I go back and paste it, it should Yeah, it it pastes it. So, so you can do the whole page but you can't do chunks of it. No, the difference is this is the whole page. The difference is uh with capture code you capture the functionality the JavaScript that like if you have a slider you can have that slider inside of Figma. So it's almost like an iframe. It's not an iframe I believe technically but it's almost like that. And the cool thing with that is what they showed. Then I can take the live whatever component it is. I can take it out and do stuff to it like change it, change the design of it and then maybe presumably tell my agent to say like go fix it. So that that's really exciting. It's really cool. Imagine you're vibe coding an app and again as we always talked about it like the last bits of like the design. It gets frustrating commenting the like the details to the agent like make the border radius like change the border radius. Maybe you just want to do it yourself and this kind of like gives you that level of granual control. And in addition there are like there are more things to talk about with that. You can copy anything. So if you can copy any code like I can copy I don't know any dashboard. I can copy uh the Apple website with the animations. I don't know how much of that will work but like you can then make changes to it manually and then tell your agent to rebuild that. uh or you make the changes also agentically. So it's kind of like an a nice in between stop. But I think realistically for me for my clients the way I could imagine using this is we had this type of clients doing their own app voding the designs. They are more focused on making the functionalities uh building the functionalities. Then we can later on join and kind of like clean up their design by maybe putting all their code not just as dead design but as live components that work inside of Figma as well. Drag them inside of Figma then tell the Figma agent as they showed to show us all the states you know that kind of stuff and do the design that Oh, he's back. Yeah. I'm I'm just wondering what the because there's a there's a theme, right? There's a theme with today's episode. I don't know if you've noticed it, but it comes down to one word begins with P. Production. No. Piracy. Yeah. Yeah. you can now legally um copy Apple's website. I guess legally. Um so I'm just reading their little press release designed to go with code layers on the canvas. Right. So that's that's the article I'm looking at. But where's the where's the extension and what is the what is the Yeah. What? Go on. That was separately on X. Uh, that's a good question. What are they saying is the reason for this code this this tool to be, you know? Yeah. Uh, what was his name? Dylan. Dylan. Um, like it was this guy Dylan. Let me find a tweet. Dylan with uh with Y. Okay. So, I'll find it in a second because he posted about it. Do you know what we need to get used to doing is noting down when we change topic because it's such a ball for me to watch these through and add timestamps. Whereas if we do it live well uh Theo does that with uh Twitch. He has a bot and he just presses like a button and then it it marks it. So why can't we vibe code something that well we could uh post we need some we need an integration that knows when we go live and then the rel the actual relation. Do you know what I mean? The the positioning. Well, we could do uh a YouTube comment. The YouTube comment has the time stamp and then you know that would work. Yeah. Yeah. When when was that? Um where is his announcement? Oh my god, he posts a lot. Dylan, buddy, you're posting so much. I can't find the uh Okay, now found it. This it's this one. Did you know about Figma's Chrome extension? Well, now you do. And we've improved it. Press the capture code button to create a code layer on the canvas. This is what I was very exciting to uh to show. and he kind of like shows how you can Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just wonder what the what the intended use case is cuz it's like well if it's been already is it way of vibe coding first and then getting it from Vibe code into into Figma or is it indeed piracy? Yeah. Oh, there we go. Look. So, same error. So pe people are saying that they yeah they don't have so it's not it's not you then it's it's literally they've again this always rolling out feature thing it's so annoying. Yeah. Yeah. What is this? We we used to announce something to say okay now it's available. Now we announce the announcement. We talked about that with Opal. Yeah we do. Gets annoying. Yeah. Wow, it looks cool. Um, but similarly, they finally I don't know whether it was in the email that they gave me, but payload is also now part of Figma sites presumably this the the long- aaited CMS aspect. So, um, that's it. That's the news on that. All I'll say is that, uh, Payload is a nice CMS. I do like it. I like using it for mostly because I can host it on Versel. It runs on Versel and if any of my websites need a CMS then payload is the is the is the one for me. Um I've tried Strappy for our command AI website but it needs its own server to run which is kind of annoying. So we strappy runs on one server and our website runs on another. It's a bit all over the place. Um but yeah, what's this? And that's how it looks. the payload. Yeah. So, Figma, you can have the browser, you have the files. I mean, every app is becoming this vibe coding environment type of thing. And anyway, it's good. It's a good design. Uh, I'm not complaining, but it's the same. So, you have the collections and here you have a very simple CMS. The thing is, so that is presumably the back end, but once you're once you're live, you're going to want to go to slashadmin log in and edit. Yeah, that would be interesting. The payload UI. This is just to get things up and running, right? I don't think there will be a payload UI in the old payload tradition. No, I don't think so. I I think it will be even for the client, it will be a Figma- like UI. They will have access to their own Figma account, their Figma organization. And yeah, probably right there they have design files and website files and in the website file they will have the content management system and because like they already have all the architecture for the billing and the the permission system for Figma and all of that and they don't want to sell you the content separately, you know, they want to sell you slides and AI and all of that. Yeah, it's designed. It begs it begs the question why they even bought payload because this is just a a Postgress database. This is not Yeah, that's a good question. Like payload's amazing is because I can create an API layer so that let's okay as an example when the um my personal website displays all of our streams, right? All of the command AI streams. When a commando stream goes live, it triggers an NAM workflow. The NAM workflow posts the episode details to my endpoint that I've created in payload and then that creates a new CMS item. So, it's all of that stuff that seemingly there's no they're not exposing any of that stuff because it's all just done through that and it's just that all that is like they did not need payload to do what they needed what they what you've just shown. I mean, it's open source, right? So they are not obviously buying it for the current state or whatever or the UI. It's for the team. I would say the team that was making uh that tool gets acquired and they can now build you know have more architectural impact. Let me tell you that's my guess. You you could have saved yourself a hell of a lot of money if you just hired me because you did not need to buy Payload to implement you did not sorry you didn't need to buy Payload to get the team to implement what you were showing us right now. Um the biggest selling point of payload is actually to use payload not through not necessarily through your UI. Yeah, may maybe this maybe they will like update the UI or like port the UI or like the mind map from payload to Figma. But to that point, I don't think they will port it one to one or even close because payload is quite complex. Like I can find my way around it, but I you know I don't think like my clients would find it that easy. It has like many dropdowns and many like you you can go nuts with it. What they are showing here on the screen is just much simpler and I think the the Figma type of like users would prefer the the the simpler approach kind of like essentially framer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. But it's Yeah. It's interesting. They they in the prompt also they are not saying build this site with the CMS. They say build this site with its back end. So interesting. I I just found it interesting terminology like we don't use back end as as much anymore. Right. CMS isn't really a backend, right? Yeah, it's really a stretch to call. It's like calling HTML back office. They call it a back office. It's like calling HTML a programming language. M yeah maybe not to the same extent but kind of tell me if you disagree with me in the comments. Yeah, people people are really sensitive about um about that. Yeah. Anyway, so we got time for Yeah, I think that's all we got time for. I think I think correct me if I'm wrong. No, that uh that's right. It's It's seven. I was going to go on to Oh, go on. Yeah. Before we Let me refresh my Twitter because uh Christian told me that Fable 5.5 should come out. And I saw somewhere else that uh Opus 6 should come out. So, we we might That would be end of days if that happened. Yeah, they they do this type of thing. Oh my god, that would be crap. Oh days. Yeah, new spark open. I'm not seeing anything. I'm not seeing anything. That That's That's a good thing. Yeah. Well, it will probably come out later today as it normally does when we do the stream. We hang up and then it's like, "Ah, [ __ ] There's something come out." But yeah, I'm not seeing anything. I'm not seeing anything. Well, yeah. If you enjoyed this episode, give it a like, subscribe, uh give us a hype. Um we What did we cover today? Let's recap. What did we cover today? We covered Tesla Roadster. Uh the Salesforce shitty S sales or SI Force logo. What are you looking at? This is so dumb. This is just so dumb. I love I love the internet. I love the internet, man. And it's so good. It's just so good. Yeah. Well, yeah. Covering the a the road roadster SI4 Salesforce logo looking like [ __ ] Levels telling us software is dead. The subscription x subscription uh bundle muse wonder and wonderful. [ __ ] Gemini 4 argon. Anthropic replacing its own git with in-house source control and Figma layers that just doesn't work yet for many many people and payload. Um, that's been it. Uh, I've been Sam. I've been KZA. Keep on vibing. Don't be a